05 Jul 17
Originally posted by sonshipWhich of course is just your opinion. You have nothing but bible verse to shore up your stance. Your god does not show up for anything. You have an absent landlord for a god.
There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that every single Atheist that has ever lived, will in one way or another come under Jesus Christ in [b] unconditional surrender.
In eternity future no Atheism will exist.
You see how today no T-Rexs exist ?
See how today no Brontosaurus exists ?
We are all headed for a universe in which Atheism will be totally extinct.[/b]
All you have is more humans asserting this god of yours is true.
Humans telling me about god is one joke after another.
God wants to talk to me, have it talk to me personally.
No, that won't happen? Too bad then. Till then I remain a bible god atheist.
05 Jul 17
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Originally posted by sonshipWell that's really interesting and of no consequence whatsoever.
There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that every single Atheist that has ever lived, will in one way or another come under Jesus Christ in [b] unconditional surrender.
In eternity future no Atheism will exist.
You see how today no T-Rexs exist ?
See how today no Brontosaurus exists ?
We are all headed for a universe in which Atheism will be totally extinct.[/b]
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05 Jul 17
Originally posted by sonshipI don't think you quite understand what qualifies as a Freudian slip. (Perhaps it's the slowness you speak of? )
Boy am I slow. I just got it that the title of this thread [b]Pray for the success of atheism is humor. That and possibly some kind of Freudian slip.[/b]
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05 Jul 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSomeone can only be 'morally good' according to their own or someone else's subjective moral standard which they got from their society. The question I have asked multiple times that no atheist has ever answered is how do you know which society has the right moral system when they contradict each other?
Two people are 'morally good,' one an atheist and one a theist. The atheist is morally good due to his own volition, the theist because God has told him to be good or he'll be punished.
And you have the gall to say the atheist's morality is wanting?!
05 Jul 17
Originally posted by dj2beckerThis has been answered before. It is possible that both or neither are 'right'. There are issues in life which are not so black and white as to allow one to easily discern which path is ethically or morally better.
Someone can only be 'morally good' according to their own or someone else's subjective moral standard which they got from their society. The question I have asked multiple times that no atheist has ever answered is how do you know which society has the right moral system when they contradict each other?
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05 Jul 17
Originally posted by avalanchethecatBut with no objective standard it is impossible to say for sure, because if you assume morality is subjective then everyones opinion on morality is equally valid.
This has been answered before. It is possible that both or neither are 'right'. There are issues in life which are not so black and white as to allow one to easily discern which path is ethically or morally better.
05 Jul 17
Originally posted by avalanchethecatHow do you know people largely agree, and why would they? Most of our laws are based upon what we agree should or should not be done, yet we see crime. We also see laws being ignored, so what are you looking at?
In the sense that we largely agree on it, yes. That is what a consensus means.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerThat does not follow. I think you know this.
But with no objective standard it is impossible to say for sure, because if you assume morality is subjective then everyones opinion on morality is equally valid.
Incidentally, where do you get your morality from on issues that are not covered by scripture? Is speeding morally wrong?
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Originally posted by dj2beckerThe Bible certainly doesn't provide a clear "objective" moral standard. If it did, all Christians would have the same views on all moral issues.
But with no objective standard it is impossible to say for sure, because if you assume morality is subjective then everyones opinion on morality is equally valid.
People have and do read into it what they will.
Capital punishment?
Slavery?
Race equality?
Gender equality?
Sexual orientation?
Birth control?
The list just goes on and on.
The problem is that people like you seem to believe that your particular views are given by God, when in reality there's too much conflicting information in the Bible for it not be a product of your own subjectivity.
The question I have asked multiple times that no atheist has ever answered is how do you know which society has the right moral system when they contradict each other?
How do you know which Christians have the "right moral system when they contradict each other"?