03 Jun 09
Originally posted by darvlayyou are right in saying he is a just God.
RBHILL's version of Christianity which states that one need only to be "saved" to get to heaven and those who have never been afforded the opportunity to "give their lives to Christ" are damned to hell is contrary to the notion of a just, merciful and loving God.
Furthermore, the idea of good works having no bearing on your soul's salvation leads to lazy, ...[text shortened]... be what Christ intended and seems contrary to the actions of Jesus against the Pharisees.
And therefore he can't let sin into heaven.
Would a judge be a just Judge if he let a murder and rapist of women freee? no of course not.
That is why Jesus came to pay are fine if we accept it.
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by Rajk999the bible is not manmade?
You have what is called a manmade doctrine. It is not in the Bible.
As for deathbed conversions I dont have a clue what that is. I cant seem to find it in the Bible. Christ decides who gets salvation and who does not ... not your buddies in the church... 🙂
Did God write it himself? were the apostles not humans?
The bible WAS manmade, the difference is that it had divine inspiration.
I cant seem to find it in the Bible.
Do you take the bible as an instruction book?
strangely enough I can't find anything about fixing windows in the bible either, gee what shall I do?
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by RBHILLAnd therefore he can't let sin into heaven
you are right in saying he is a just God.
And therefore he can't let sin into heaven.
Would a judge be a just Judge if he let a murder and rapist of women freee? no of course not.
That is why Jesus came to pay are fine if we accept it.
"I have not come to call righteous people, but sinners, to repentance."
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by karoly aczelHave you ever met a person who was raised by abusive parents? They are wrecks, if not outwardly, at least privately. If I insult my children enough, according to your logic, they will grow up to be "humble" individuals. But in reality that is far from the case. Abused children usually grow up to have massive ego problems that plague them for the rest of their lives. Why? Because insults cause harm. In fact, insults are meant to cause harm.
insults wound the ego
There's nothing loving about insulting others. Doing so is the opposite of love. To insult others is to disobey Christ who commanded his followers to love. Someone like Rajk999 who insults others on a regular basis is demonstrating a lack of love. How might I or anyone else conclude otherwise? "He who does not love does not know God, for God is love" (1 John 4:8).
"Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things" (1 Cor. 13:4-7).
03 Jun 09
Originally posted by epiphinehas"1 Cor. 13:4-7" One of my favorite quotes. 🙂
Have you ever met a person who was raised by abusive parents? They are wrecks, if not outwardly, at least privately. If I insult my children enough, according to your logic, they will grow up to be "humble" individuals. But in reality that is far from the case. Abused children usually grow up to have massive ego problems that plague them for t ...[text shortened]... s all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things" (1 Cor. 13:4-7).
04 Jun 09
I just know that there will be people in heaven that were not religious at all. Jesus when he was on the earth was fighting with the religious people of his day. Jesus said unless your righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisees you could not enter the kingdom of God. Also how hard it would be for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Jesus did say however with God all things are possible. I think when Christians make judgments like oh that group of people are not saved or this group or whatever it is very presumptuous. Jesus hung with the lowly of this world when he was here. The so called sinners.
Manny
04 Jun 09
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Originally posted by generalissimoYes, and when they repent and accept Christ their sins are forgiven,
[b]And therefore he can't let sin into heaven
"I have not come to call righteous people, but sinners, to repentance."[/b]
The reason they will get into heaven is because they accepted Chirst and their sins are covered by the blood of the lamb.
The bible says that no one is righteous so Jesus came for everyone to repent.
Romans 3:10
As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one
Galatians 3:11
Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith."
