Relationship with Christ V Obeying His Commandments

Originally posted by @romans1009
You still don’t understand?

Do you think anyone is capable of living a sin-free life, bearing in mind that bearing false witness (lying) is a sin, coveting is a sin, being angry at someone is a sin and looking on a woman with lust in your heart is a sin?

People who have God’s Holy Spirit within them (due to fulfilling John 3:16 and/or Romans 10:9) ...[text shortened]... he struggle between the Spirit and the flesh in Galatians 5 and Romans 7. They’re worth reading.

The righteous inherit the Kingdom of God Sinners are cast out.

Originally posted by @rajk999
The righteous inherit the Kingdom of God Sinners are cast out.

How do you define “sinners?”

Is a sinner someone who commits a single sin? Or is a sinner someone who sins willfully (i.e. without repentance?) Or is a sinner someone who lives a lifestyle of sin (sins habitually?)

Originally posted by @romans1009
How do you define “sinners?”

Is a sinner someone who commits a single sin? Or is a sinner someone who sins willfully (i.e. without repentance?) Or is a sinner someone who lives a lifestyle of sin (sins habitually?)

Jesus will decide

Originally posted by @rajk999
Jesus will decide

Where is the Biblical support for the idea that God decides someone’s eternal fate after he or she dies?

Originally posted by @romans1009
Where is the Biblical support for the idea that God decides someone’s eternal fate after he or she dies?

Never heard of judgment day?

Originally posted by @rajk999
Never heard of judgment day?

My understanding is the Bible speaks of two judgments - the Judgment Seat of Christ for believers and the Great White Throne Judgment for those who are Christ deniers.

Are you referring to something else?

Originally posted by @romans1009
My understanding is the Bible speaks of two judgments - the Judgment Seat of Christ for believers and the Great White Throne Judgment for those who are Christ deniers.

Are you referring to something else?

I heard ... thats your understanding ?

Or the pastors said so.

The bible said no such thing

Originally posted by @rajk999
I heard ... thats your understanding ?

Or the pastors said so.

The bible said no such thing

Is there a third judgment beyond the Judgment Seat of Christ and Great White Throne Judgment?

If you don’t know, that’s fine.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Is there a third judgment beyond the Judgment Seat of Christ and Great White Throne Judgment?

If you don’t know, that’s fine.

Your understanding and the pastors preaching is unbiblical

Originally posted by @rajk999
Your understanding and the pastors preaching is unbiblical

Ok, have a good evening/day

Originally posted by @romans1009
Ok, have a good evening/day

That appears to be your recent code for:

'I appear to have lost this argument and will scurry from this thread post haste.'

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
That appears to be your recent code for:

'I appear to have lost this argument and will scurry from this thread post haste.'

Not at all. I asked several times where in the Bible it says that God decides the eternal fate of people after they die and he refused to answer.

Rather than ask again, I wished him a good evening/day.

Originally posted by @rajk999
Which is it? ...

There is no christ or any other god in my face. That has to mean something.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Is there a third judgment beyond the Judgment Seat of Christ and Great White Throne Judgment?

If you don’t know, that’s fine.

There no part of the Bible that says this :

the Judgment Seat of Christ for believers
and the Great White Throne Judgment for those who are Christ deniers.

You continue to make statements which have no biblical foundation.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Where is the Biblical support for the idea that God decides someone’s eternal fate after he or she dies?

Man is saved by the death of Christ. Man only gets eternal life after he has lived a good life in keeping with the commandments of Christ. Saved is NOT the same as eternal life. Your church doctrine is astray on this point.

Paul in almost all the letters to the churches made this point. The born again Christian Saints are saved by faith in Christ. Eternal life is given to those who are judged worthy of eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Therefore it is only when a man dies then he can be judged.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (Hebrews 9:27 KJV)

So the process is
1. People often live in sin
2. Faith/belief in Christ brings them out of this life of sin - they become Saved Born again Christian Saints with the Holy Spirit
3.They are supposed to live their lives according to the teachings of Christ with the guidance of the Holy Spirit
4.They die and face judgment - the righteous inherit eternal life, sinners are destroyed.

For every man shall bear his own burden. ..
God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption;
but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
(Galatians 6:5-8 KJV)

Read it .. everlasting life is for those who live righteously, those who live fleshly lives will reap corruption which is death.

Again in Ephesians

But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness,
let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient:
but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger,
nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater,
hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
(Ephesians 5:3-5 KJV)

Only the righteous born again Chrsitian saints, enter the Kingdom of God AFTER THEY HAVE LIVED THEIR LIVES AND THEY DIE, THEN COMES JUDGMENT . Sinners are cast out.

All born again Christian Saints do not enter the Kingdom of God