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Originally posted by @rajk999Those exact words? No. But the Bible does speak of two judgments - the Judgment Seat of Christ for Christians, and the Great White Throne Judgment for those who deny the deity of Christ and His Resurrection.
There no part of the Bible that says this :
the Judgment Seat of Christ for believers
and the Great White Throne Judgment for those who are Christ deniers.
You continue to make statements which have no biblical foundation.
Meanwhile, what is the Biblical support for God deciding the eternal fate of someone after he or she has died? Why do you think the verses you quoted pertain to salvation?
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Originally posted by @rajk999Some definition helps:
First, there is no mention of a relationship in the bible.
From a Google Dictionary
re·la·tion·ship
rəˈlāSH(ə)nˌSHip/Submit
noun
the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected.
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synonyms: connection, relation, association, link, correlation, correspondence, parallel, alliance, bond, interrelation, interconnection
"connected" ... the way two or more people are "connected" it says.
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" (1 Cor. 6:17)
That's a living connection and shows a relationship between a person and the Lord Jesus.
Again - "connected, or the state of being connected."
Jesus emphasized a state of being connected here.
" Abide in Me and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me.
I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing." (John 15;4,5)
This reveals both a connection and being connected - a relationship of Christ and the one abiding supernaturally in Christ.
In fact the keeping of His commandments can only be carried out in a joining relationship.
The dictionary said - " , link, correlation, correspondence, parallel, alliance, bond, interrelation, interconnection "
How could this not mean fellowship with Christ is a relationship?
Look at alliance, bond ... interconnection:
The Apostle Paul says we are FIRMLY ATTACHED to the anointed One:
"But the One who firmly attaches us with you unto Christ and has anointed us is God. He who has also sealed us and given the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge." (2 Cor. 1:21,22)
The believer in Christ is not only "firmly attach[ed]" to Christ but has a foretaste, a guarantee, a appetizer, a inner preview of much more enjoyment to come. He has given the Holy Spirit as a SEAL and a PLEDGE in this association.
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There is some very strong irony here. Someone is spending a lot of time in this thread insulting and condemning others for not ceaselessly following Christ's commandments when, in doing so, he breaks the most important commandment of all. Repeatedly.
In the time it takes to think out and construct a mean-spirited, hostile post aimed at a fellow believer, it is yet impossible to be concurrently loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.
19 May 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyMr Sumydid.. welcome back. Which posts would you say are mean spirited?
There is some very strong irony here. Someone is spending a lot of time in this thread insulting and condemning others for not ceaselessly following Christ's commandments when, in doing so, he breaks the most important commandment of all. Repeatedly.
In the time it takes to think out and construct a mean-spirited, hostile post aimed at a fellow beli ...[text shortened]... t is yet impossible to be concurrently loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.
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Originally posted by @rajk999Why don’t you want to answer this question?
There no part of the Bible that says this :
the Judgment Seat of Christ for believers
and the Great White Throne Judgment for those who are Christ deniers.
You continue to make statements which have no biblical foundation.
“Is there a third judgment beyond the Judgment Seat of Christ and Great White Throne Judgment?
If you don’t know, that’s fine.”
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Originally posted by @suzianneIt doesn’t and isn’t - one follows the other. amigo got them in the right order; the relationship precedes obedience because obedience is most successful when done out of love and with help from God’s indwelt Holy Spirit.
Relationship with Christ V Obeying His Commandments
I still don't see why it has to be one or the other.
Trying to be obedient to Christ’s commandments without having a relationship with Him and without believing in Him and His Resurrection is doomed to failure. The two Christ deniers are proof enough of that.
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Originally posted by @apathistNot as bland and empty as apathists.
Annoyed. No anger involved, since bible-thumpers aren't a direct danger. They are just ridiculous.