03 Sep 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyOnce again, how can this be even remotely true for the countless billions of humans who have created this "human history" and who do not share your Christian religious beliefs?
The crucifixion of Christ is the central focus of human history.
03 Sep 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo you just neatly sidestep the "Objectively focused relevant question" contrary to your OP promise, and make some frivolous, sneering remark?
Secularizing biblical truth has filled always a void for those who reject it and has been adopted on this spirituality forum as a competitive sport.
(OP: final paragraph) Objectively focused, relevant questions will be answered in the sequence asked during the days and weeks ahead.
My question was: Do you at least agree that the verses you quoted were used by the Church against Galileo, to defend the geocentric world view, and to reject the emerging scientific view as anti-Bible and anti-God, exactly as you are doing today?
Simple question, yes or no?
03 Sep 15
Originally posted by checkbaiterIt is generally the case that the smaller body orbits the larger body. Moons orbit planets and planets orbit suns or stars.
There are many who claim just that. The sun revolves around the earth that is....
I know the opposite is true, but the bible does not explicitly say the sun revolves around the earth.
from Wiki....
1. This argument opens the accuracy of the Bible up to question just as much as it questions modern astronomy and physics. To those who hold reason ...[text shortened]... t why is making a day longer any harder for God than parting the Red Sea, or creating the earth?
03 Sep 15
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Originally posted by RJHindsBut Joshua did not know that, and the Church fought it tooth and nail for centuries.
It is generally the case that the smaller body orbits the larger body. Moons orbit planets and planets orbit suns or stars.
Just like you fight the most basic aspects of modern science today.
03 Sep 15
Originally posted by FMFWhat makes you think humans create human history, doesn't history just evolve over time? Or was it perhaps God that created human history? Could that be why we have the history of the worldwide flood and the resurrection of Jesus in the Holy Bible, and the Shroud of Turin and an increase in knowledge and many people going to and fro?
Once again, how can this be even remotely true for the countless billions of humans who have created this "human history" and who do not share your Christian religious beliefs?
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
(Daniel 12:4 KJV)
04 Sep 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhat does the word "what" mean to you?
What does the word "theory" mean to you?
What does the word "does" mean to you?
What does the word "the" mean to you?
etc.
To have a discussion we must all use a common language.
Individual interpretation of a word is meaningless.
04 Sep 15
Originally posted by CalJustIndeed. Grampy Bobby's snide quip/dodge/deflection here is a good example of the lack of civility often seen on this forum, something he tries to distance himself from by complaining about it hypocritically.
So you just neatly sidestep the "Objectively focused relevant question" contrary to your OP promise, and make some frivolous, sneering remark?
04 Sep 15
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyGramps for your next post perhaps you would like to:
[b]"Sheol – Old Testament Hebrew Word / Hades – New Testament Greek Word (Both words are speaking of the same place)"
"This place is in the center of the earth or globe. The Bible suggests that Sheol or Hades is downward (Ezekiel 32:21, 27; Numb. 16:30-35) and that God’s dwelling place is upward (Job 37:22; Isa. 14:31; Psalms 121:9; Duet. 32:22; ...[text shortened]... ys and weeks ahead. For your own sake, please ponder the information given above. Thank you. -GB[/b]
Hypothesize about the existence of Santa Claus.
Give us the address of the Tooth Fairy.
Explain what compartment holds the Easter Bunny.