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Originally posted by @apathist
Yes design seems obvious. I'm not stupid for noticing this, and you aren't either.
Tell me please, who designed the designer.
Tell me please, who designed the designer.
In order to decide that an explanation is the best for something, you do not have to have an explanation FOR the explanation.
19 Sep 17
Originally posted by @sonshipI understand that you do not treat this issue as trivial. But this issue will not go away. If the designer did not need to be designed, then neither did anything else. This is not an easy conclusion, but you have to deal with it, or go wacko.Tell me please, who designed the designer.
I believe that the cosmic buck ( so to speak) does stop somewhere.
You want to say there must be an infinite regress so that the designer of the designer of the designer of the designer ... ad infinitum, must be.
Other than a trick to try to avoid acknowledging a Supreme Being I don't know what this does for anyone.
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Originally posted by @apathist
Yes, you do. You must explain every step of your way. Unless lying is important for you.
Yes, you do. You must explain every step of your way. Unless lying is important for you.
Do you think that by saying this you are doing the scientific method a favor ?
Do you think that in the realm of scientific knowledge all explanations are not worthy to accept as the best ones because we do not yet have explanations for those explanations ?
The size of the moon in comparison to the earth is unique among all planets in the solar system and their satellite moons. Do we know why this is so ?
If we as of yet have no explanation for it, should we reject then that the comparative size of our moon is uniquely related to the size of the planet that it orbits ?
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19 Sep 17
Originally posted by @apathist
Yes, you do. You must explain every step of your way. Unless lying is important for you.
Yes, you do. You must explain every step of your way. Unless lying is important for you.
So mankind knows everything ? And there is nothing left to discover or explain ?
All steps have been explained then and mankind has become omniscient.
A common cold makes me sneeze this week.
We still do not know everything about the causes of a common cold.
Your opinion suggests that no scientific explanation should have been accepted ever.
This is rather hostile to the science endeavor.
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Yes, you do. You must explain every step of your way. Unless lying is important for you.
Say, archeologists are digging in the earth. they find pottery shards, arrow heads, and tools of stone.
The best explanation is that these artifacts were left by some ancient peoples. That is the best explanation. They may have no explanation as to WHO they were.
Not knowing WHO they were is no reason to reject that the best explanation for those artifacts are an ancient society of some kind.
Apathist tries to strengthen the flawed anti-science reasoning with an ad hom. If you don't have an explanation FOR your best explanation, then lying must be important to you.
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Apathist is very anti science.
No explanation could ever be taken as the best one.
Why? Because you do not have an explanation, and no explanation of that explanation, or an explanation of that explanation, or an explanation of that explanation infinitely.
Nothing could ever be decided upon as a best offered explanation of anything.
In his zeal to criticize Intelligent Design he arrives at a very anti-scientific philsophy.
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Originally posted by @wolfgang59Unless the body was not designed to last forever.
[b]If
the body were evidence of design.
It would be evidence for a flawed and incompetent designer.
The human body is excellent evidence for evolution - not design.[/b]
And yet all the human intelligence out there cannot design a human body that can live for one second yet no intelligence was supposedly required to make a human body live for up to 100 years. Open your eyes wolfy.
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20 Sep 17
Originally posted by @apathistUnless the creator is eternal and the creation is not.
I understand that you do not treat this issue as trivial. But this issue will not go away. If the designer did not need to be designed, then neither did anything else. This is not an easy conclusion, but you have to deal with it, or go wacko.
20 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou open your eyes.
Unless the body was not designed to last forever.
And yet all the human intelligence out there cannot design a human body that can live for one second yet no intelligence was supposedly required to make a human body live for up to 100 years. Open your eyes wolfy.
I am not talking about the length of life.
The human body is badly designed.
The eye.
The reproductive organs.
The proximity of the airways and digestive system.
The spine.
All barely fit for purpose - because they have evolved NOT BEEN DESIGNED.
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Originally posted by @wolfgang59The eye is so badly designed that it is a million times better than any camera that was designed with human intelligence? Whatever you say wolfy.
You open your eyes.
I am not talking about the length of life.
The human body is badly designed.
The eye.
The reproductive organs.
The proximity of the airways and digestive system.
The spine.
All barely fit for purpose - because they have evolved NOT BEEN DESIGNED.
Have you ever travelled somewhere and taken snaps of your travels just to be disappointed that your camera came no where near to capturing what your eyes have seen?
Smart scientists can't even create a simple life form in the lab using intelligence and all the raw materials they need, yet a complex life form created itself without any form of intelligent intervention. Very believable indeed. 🙄
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Originally posted by @wolfgang59Which is your opinion -
You open your eyes.
I am not talking about the length of life.
The human body is badly designed.
The eye.
The reproductive organs.
The proximity of the airways and digestive system.
The spine.
All barely fit for purpose - because they have evolved NOT BEEN DESIGNED.
The human body is badly designed ?
The human body is not designed at all ?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerI think he has taken up a new tactic - distract the poster with Senator McCarthy like big lying accusations embodied in questions.
Take your trolling questions elsewhere.