@ghost-of-a-duke saidI get it you have decided that anything that may lead to an acknowledgement of God is on par with the tooth fairy right out of the box. No reasoning required!
I was clear in what I posted. I'm afraid you are on your own in understanding it.
@kellyjay saidAgain, you don't appear to have read anything I have posted, or at least not taken it in. Please don't bother replying to any of my posts, especially those directed to others.
I get it you have decided that anything that may lead to an acknowledgement of God is on par with the tooth fairy right out of the box. No reasoning required!
05 Dec 23
@ghost-of-a-duke saidAs you wish but that is how I see what you have said.
Again, you don't appear to have read anything I have posted, or at least not taken it in. Please don't bother replying to any of my posts, especially those directed to others.
@kellyjay saidIf you are talking about a choice to believe something you know is true, then it isn't a belief, no belief is required.
If you are talking about a choice to believe something you know is true, then it isn't a belief, no belief is required. If your understanding is faulty and what you accept by choice is about an error, then your choice to believe puts you in error.
Why must it, for you, be "belief" and not "knowledge"?
If someone has "knowledge" of [in this case] some threats or warnings from a vengeful supernatural being, one still has free will concerning obedience.
But if it is merely belief/speculation ~ of the kind that underpins your personal opinions about supernatural things ~ then one cannot just decide to believe them if they are not convincing. Psychologically speaking, it rings false.
06 Dec 23
@fmf saidOf course your extensive education and training in psychology has prepared you for this. 🙄
If you are talking about a choice to believe something you know is true, then it isn't a belief, no belief is required.
Why must it, for you, be "belief" and not "knowledge"?
If someone has "knowledge" of [in this case] some threats or warnings from a vengeful supernatural being, one still has free will concerning obedience.
But if it is merely belief/speculation ...[text shortened]... ot just decide to believe them if they are not convincing. Psychologically speaking, it rings false.
06 Dec 23
@suzianne saidIf you disagree, then say why. An attempted ad hominem about my education is merely a cop out. If you believe your education and training in psychology makes your analysis more persuasive than mine, why not demonstrate it?
Of course your extensive education and training in psychology has prepared you for this. 🙄
@fmf saidNope. As always, you are the one attempting to sell me short. And as always, you fail.
My observation about KellyJay's problem with discourse is an astute one. Your banter about it doesn't measure up and, once again, you sell yourself short.
@fmf saidI'm only giving you the time you deserve. I'm a busy person.
If you disagree, then say why. An attempted ad hominem about my education is merely a cop out. If you believe your education and training in psychology makes your analysis more persuasive than mine, why not demonstrate it?