The adversary is within

Showing disrespect in some cultures can be done by holding up a certain finger of your five. In other places it is showing an open palm.

In some countries when you give someone a gift you may use one hand.
In other countries you always give a gift using both hands as to only use one is
disrepectful.

In some contries to extend your right hand to shake someone's hand is disprectful to the max. That is because that is the hand you wipe yourself with.
In other countries you shake hands with your right hand as a way of respect.

You should know this. And it surprises me that you would put up an argument about it.

Over all of these cultures one thing is constant - people should respect one another. And violation of those norms is violation of the code of respect - an insult.

Showing gratitude after a meal is shown in different ways over different cultures.
In some places to burp after dinner is a sign of gratitude.
In other places to burp at the dinner table is considered rude.

Across either culture custom the overall moral object is showing gratitude or good manners when hospitality of a meal is extended to you.

FMF if you think there are no universal moral absolutes recognized by all people - Can you name me a culture at any time where, let's say, cowardice on the battle field is respectable ?

Can you name me a culture in any time where betrayal of a friend is considered honorable?

@sonship said
FMF if you think there are no universal moral absolutes recognized by all people - Can you name me a culture at any time where, let's say, cowardice on the battle field is respectable ?

Can you name me a culture in any time where betrayal of a friend is considered honorable?

@sonship said
Showing disrespect in some cultures can be done by holding up a certain finger of your five. In other places it is showing an open palm.

In some countries when you give someone a gift you may use one hand.
In other countries you always give a gift using both hands as to only use one is
disrepectful.

In some contries to extend your right hand to sha ...[text shortened]... all moral object is showing gratitude or good manners when hospitality of a meal is extended to you.

@sonship said
Do you agree that people in different cultures express different norms that achieve the same overall moral objective ?

@FMF

Such standards are aggregations of subjectivities. Not "absolute moral standards".

@sonship said

If you are asking me 'Are people in "the East" and "the "West" always respectful, even though it may be expressed in different ways across cultures?' then, no, I don't agree.

You are clearly and succintly saying "No" to something I did NOT ask.
What I asked had nothing to do with whether people anywhere are always
respectful.

I ...[text shortened]... flat wrong on that score.
Bowing and shaking hands are two different ways of showing respect.

@sonship said
What culture ever on earth considered lusting after one's own mother is honorable?

@sonship said
There are some things upon which the human consciences of all human beings give assent. You're going to falsify that with an example of, let's say, it is honorable to marry one's own mother. You're going to prove that this is only a subjectivity certainly not universal.

@FMF

None of these values or standards as they are perceived and implemented by members of a culture are objective.

@FMF

It doesn't matter how far and wide the moral denunciation is, it's still not an "absolute".

@sonship said
@FMF

It doesn't matter how far and wide the moral denunciation is, it's still not an "absolute".

Is that absolutely true?

@sonship said
Is the statement you are making objectively true without regard to subjective feelings?

@sonship said
Is there an obective standard against which we can determine that what you have said is a true statement ?

@fmf said
You are welcome to question of the validity of my beliefs.