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@chaney3 saidI'm hostile to pseudo-explanations which don't explain anything. "God'll do it" is a pseudo-explanation which doesn't explain anything. It cuts off any attempt to explain anything at all. If you think God 'fixes' chromosomes, then you have to assume that God sometimes doesn't fix them, he buggers them. For example, when Down's Syndrome occurs. You might as well stop thinking right there, say 'God fixes everything,' and quit trying to understand how nature works.
Wow.
You sound really hostile here.
Why?
@kellyjay saidPeople admitting that there are things we do not know about the origins of the universe does not mean they "ignore the questions surrounding the origins". Your subscription to and propagation of ancient Hebrew beliefs does not create any onus on other people to conjure up some alternative speculation that competes with yours.
For those who ignore the questions surrounding origins have nothing to compare what reality should and should not have in it.
@moonbus saidAre you okay with Evolution did it, we just don’t know how?
I'm hostile to pseudo-explanations which don't explain anything. "God'll do it" is a pseudo-explanation which doesn't explain anything. It cuts off any attempt to explain anything at all. If you think God 'fixes' chromosomes, then you have to assume that God sometimes doesn't fix them, he buggers them. For example, when Down's Syndrome occurs. You might as well stop thinking right there, say 'God fixes everything,' and quit trying to understand how nature works.
@chaney3 saidIt is much better to be honest about what you do, and do not, know. This is a strength, not a weakness.
Evolution is an incomplete explanation by science if it cannot explain origin.
Science would like to try to explain life, but must admit it cannot.
Evolution is incomplete, and any real scientist should concede that point.
Some scientists overstate their knowledge, but it is much more common for religious people to overstate their knowledge. Religion actively encourages this amongst its followers. If they don't do it, they are labeled 'weak of faith'.
21 Dec 22
@chaney3 saidIncomplete how? It is a vague explanation of very specified functionally complex processes that people attempt to use to explain things in a way that they can credit mindlessness with. Suggesting a bottom up approach is all that is required, so that anything that looks designed can be called an illusion not clear evidence for a designer!
Evolution is an incomplete explanation by science if it cannot explain origin.
Science would like to try to explain life, but must admit it cannot.
Evolution is incomplete, and any real scientist should concede that point.
@kellyjay saidEvolution:
Incomplete how? It is a vague explanation of very specified functionally complex processes that people attempt to use to explain things in a way that they can credit mindlessness with. Suggesting a bottom up approach is all that is required, so that anything that looks designed can be called an illusion not clear evidence for a designer!
Sometimes, during the standard copying of DNA that occurs in cells, there are copying errors that lead to mutations. Although most mutations are harmful, a few are beneficial in that they confer some sort of survival advantage. This advantage is passed on to the offspring, and that variation of the life-form surges in population, while its cousins die out.
Creation / ID:
God blew on a pile of dirt and made it into a human male.
We don't even need to ask which one is more specific.
21 Dec 22
@bigdogg saidExplain where DNA originated from.
Evolution:
Sometimes, during the standard copying of DNA that occurs in cells, there are copying errors that lead to mutations. Although most mutations are harmful, a few are beneficial in that they confer some sort of survival advantage. This advantage is passed on to the offspring, and that variation of the life-form surges in population, while its cousins die out.
Crea ...[text shortened]... pile of dirt and made it into a human male.
We don't even need to ask which one is more specific.
You cannot.
At least the Bible makes an effort to explain it.
Science has nothing.
(It's amazing to me the arrogance of people who cannot explain origin, yet try to sound intelligent, but you sound dumb, sorry)
21 Dec 22
@bigdogg saidExcept the evolutionary story is a story that can not display any mechanisms to share how it is done, simply repeating the theory does not prove it. Natural processes degrade in time the greater the entropy the more it can degrade. To harness energy to do work requires machines, even in the biological world unless there is something to harness energy to put it into a useful state we will not see processes build anything functionally complex, so high energy and low entropy are required. Typically high energy creates high entropy!
Evolution:
Sometimes, during the standard copying of DNA that occurs in cells, there are copying errors that lead to mutations. Although most mutations are harmful, a few are beneficial in that they confer some sort of survival advantage. This advantage is passed on to the offspring, and that variation of the life-form surges in population, while its cousins die out.
Crea ...[text shortened]... pile of dirt and made it into a human male.
We don't even need to ask which one is more specific.
The theory if true looks more designed than mindlessnessly driven.