@FMF
That is not the subject of the thread.
And if counting angels on a pen's head is what you're doing you don't have to participate in the thread.
The Son of God is eternal and the many sons He is leading into glory reign forever and ever.
1.) His leading them:
"For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and through whom are all things, in leading many sons into glory, the make the Author of thier salvation perfect through sufferings." (Hebrews 2:10)
2.) The many sons led into glory reign for eternity:
"He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be God to him, and he will be a son to Me." (Rev. 21:7)
" . . . and they will reign forever and ever." (22:5)
The person who thumbed down in disapproval can now do the more difficult part of explaining how the sons of God reign forever and ever while the Son of God who led them goes away, becomes gone and no more, whose office of Son is abolished.
IF Rajk999 was the down thumber, he need not explain.
@sonship saidYou misunderstand. I think it is YOU who appears to be counting angels on the head of a pin. Meanwhile, I am trying to get you to say something substantial about the consequences of your doctrine in connection with this topic.
And if counting angels on a pen's head is what you're doing you don't have to participate in the thread.
The critical point is that the Triune God as to what He IS can hardly be seperated from what He DOES as His eternal purpose.
The Son of God lives always and unto eternity to intercede for the saved that they be so saved to the uttermost.
"But He, because He abides FOREVER, has His priesthood unalterable.
Hence also He is able to save to the uttermost thow who come forward to God through HIm, since He live ALWAYS . . . to intercede for them." (Hebrews 7:24,25)
What a wonderful God-man perpetual High Priest.
Why would you miss all the eternal enjoyment?
@sonship
Typo cprrection: "those"
"But He, because He abides FOREVER, has His priesthood unalterable.
Hence also He is able to save to the uttermost those who come forward to God through Him, since He live ALWAYS . . . to intercede for them." (Hebrews 7:24,25)
@fmf saidI'm not sure what you mean by "extra" Biblical terminology, but I would remind you that today's bible was written many centuries ago by multiple authors. With this in mind, differences in syntax, terminology and interpretation are inevitable.
Does accepting all your extra-Biblical terminology and concepts have any bearing on anyone's "salvation"?
@mchill saidSo you are comfortable with terms phrases and syntax which underpin doctrines which are not in the bible?
I'm not sure what you mean by "extra" Biblical terminology, but I would remind you that today's bible was written many centuries ago by multiple authors. With this in mind, differences in syntax, terminology and interpretation are inevitable.
Jesus Christ the Son of God is the Son through whom God made the universe.
And He is the Son appointed Heir of the universe forever.
"God, having spoken of old in many portions and in many ways to the fathers in the prophets,
Has at the last of these days spoken to us in the Son, whom He appointed Heir of all things, through whom also He made the universe." (Hebrews 1:1,2)
The Son of God is not the temoorary Heir just for sliver of time, even a sliver of time, even 1,000 years. He is the eternal Heir. The Son as an eternal Heir He is.