Spirituality
08 Aug 14
15 Oct 14
Originally posted by divegeesterIt's the side you seem to have found yourself on.
Can you explain what you mean by "god's bad side"?
This is just a suggestion (no one is telling you what to do) but you might want to move over to his good side sometime before you croak... because after that all bets are off.
But like I said, it's only a suggestion... do as you will*
*freewill
15 Oct 14
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Originally posted by lemon limeI am already a vocal Christian and have been for about 25 years, so what are you talking about?
It's the side you seem to have found yourself on.
This is just a suggestion (no one is telling you what to do) but you might want to move over to his good side sometime before you croak... because after that all bets are off.
But like I said, it's only a suggestion... do as you will*
*freewill
15 Oct 14
Originally posted by divegeesterOh please, since when are Christians supposed to undermine the faith of other Christians? Show me in the Bible where it says you should be doing that.
I am already a vocal Christian and have been for about 25 years, so what are you talking about?
What you and FMF appear to have in common is the same spirit of self deception. You two seem to consistently be on the same side in opposition to Christians and Christianity in general, but then expect any real Christian to be fooled into thinking otherwise. Or maybe you're just fooling yourselves, I still haven't worked that part out yet...
So... are you two well aware of what you have been doing, and assume Christians are stupid because of what they believe?
evidence works to narrow down options
Originally posted by divegeesterI don't have any problem believing the "vocal" part of that statement, but the very first time I talked with you (it was some time ago) I commented on your avatar (the bright blue angry looking face) and asked why you chose an intimidating looking avatar. I was also wondering why atheists here didn't disagree with you, and it was wolfgang59 who answered me... he said your theology is sensible. He didn't say Christian theology is sensible, he said your theology is sensible. Am I now supposed to believe that wolfgang59 thinks Christian theology is sensible?
I am already a vocal Christian and have been for about 25 years, so what are you talking about?
I prefer thinking for myself, but I'll suspended disbelief for a moment and ask you to tell me what to believe. What is it about your theology that atheists find agreeable? The reason I'm asking is because I have never seen an atheist agree with Christian theology, unless the Christian espousing that 'theology' has first agreed with atheism.
Originally posted by lemon limewolfgang59 disagrees with divegeester's beliefs all the time. As for why on one occasion he described divegeester as "sensible" compared to some other Christians, why aren't you posing that question to wolfgang59?
I was also wondering why atheists here didn't disagree with you, and it was wolfgang59 who answered me... he said your theology is sensible. He didn't say Christian theology is sensible, he said your theology is sensible. Am I now supposed to believe that wolfgang59 thinks Christian theology is sensible?
Originally posted by FMF...why aren't you posing that question to wolfgang59?
wolfgang59 disagrees with divegeester's beliefs all the time. As for why on one occasion he described divegeester as "sensible" compared to some other Christians, why aren't you posing that question to wolfgang59?
Why are you answering, was I posing that question to you?
15 Oct 14
Originally posted by lemon limeI am commenting on your post. It's seems you should be posing your question about 'why wolfgang59 used the word sensible once to describe divegeester' to wolfgang59 himself. The validity of divegeester's claim to be a Christian cannot be determined by what someone happened to say to him once. If you believe there is some genuine significance in wolfgang59's use of the word "sensible", then it is him you should be asking about it.
[b]...why aren't you posing that question to wolfgang59?
Why are you answering, was I posing that question to you?[/b]
15 Oct 14
Originally posted by lemon limeA Christian and a non-Christian agreeing !!! And against you!!!!
You two seem to consistently be on the same side in opposition to Christians and Christianity in general, but then expect any real Christian to be fooled into thinking otherwise.
They should be burnt at the stake.
But of course divegeester cannot possibly be a real Christian because he doesn't agree with you!
15 Oct 14
Originally posted by lemon limeFor the record I do not agree with divegeester's theology.
I was also wondering why atheists here didn't disagree with you, and it was wolfgang59 who answered me... he said your theology is sensible. He didn't say Christian theology is sensible, he said your theology is sensible. Am I now supposed to believe that wolfgang59 thinks Christian theology is sensible?
I prefer thinking for myse ...[text shortened]... n theology, unless the Christian espousing that 'theology' has first agreed with atheism.
(That should be obvious to anyone with an ounce of sense!
He is a Christian and I am atheist)
But I said his theology was sensible:- it is cohesive, moral and
seems based on rational interpretation of the bible. (I shall probably
come to rue those words in a later debate!!) BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
I THINK HE RESPECTS THE VIEWS OF OTHERS, IS WILLING TO DEBATE
AND DOESNT DICTATE WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN
16 Oct 14
Originally posted by lemon limeFirstly, can you explain how I "undermine the faith of other Christians?"
I don't have any problem believing the "vocal" part of that statement, but the very first time I talked with you (it was some time ago) I commented on your avatar (the bright blue angry looking face) and asked why you chose an intimidating looking avatar. I was also wondering why atheists here didn't disagree with you, and it was wolfgang59 who answered m ...[text shortened]... n theology, unless the Christian espousing that 'theology' has first agreed with atheism.
If you are going to throw out an accusation like this you really ought to have the courage to back it back it up with something substantial.
16 Oct 14
Originally posted by lemon limeSo let me get this straight, you are extrapolating one comment by Wolfgang and an avatar to me not being a Christian, is that correct?
I don't have any problem believing the "vocal" part of that statement, but the very first time I talked with you (it was some time ago) I commented on your avatar (the bright blue angry looking face) and asked why you chose an intimidating looking avatar. I was also wondering why atheists here didn't disagree with you, and it was wolfgang59 who answered m ...[text shortened]... n theology, unless the Christian espousing that 'theology' has first agreed with atheism.
16 Oct 14
Originally posted by FMF"Do as I say, not as I do", eh?
I am commenting on your post. It's seems you should be posing your question about 'why wolfgang59 used the word sensible once to describe divegeester' to wolfgang59 himself. The validity of divegeester's claim to be a Christian cannot be determined by what someone happened to say to him once. If you believe there is some genuine significance in wolfgang59's use of the word "sensible", then it is him you should be asking about it.