05 Dec 07
Originally posted by geniusUh-huh,,,and what of all the children's media that is biased *toward* religion? Do you have a similar problem with that?
No, if christians really believed what they preached they would want to share it with as many people as possible. Why would they laugh at someone condemned to death when they could at least try and do something about it?
I think the main gripe of most christians who oppose the film is that it is a childrens film, and children are impressionable. Children s ...[text shortened]... t thought it was a kinda weird story that mentions God. I missed the whole anti-religion part.
05 Dec 07
Originally posted by mdhallCompletely agree. Additionally, simply being labeled an 'atheist' says absolutley nothing about a persons belief structure, it simply implies the lack of belief in one particular myth.
What's your point?
Since when did we start judging the sum of a persons works by their belief structure?
05 Dec 07
Originally posted by geniusIt has been the Christian agenda to manipulate kids into believing their religion before they are capable of remembering their own phone number. How many babies have given express consent for their baptization?
No, if christians really believed what they preached they would want to share it with as many people as possible. Why would they laugh at someone condemned to death when they could at least try and do something about it?
I think the main gripe of most christians who oppose the film is that it is a childrens film, and children are impressionable. Children s ...[text shortened]... t thought it was a kinda weird story that mentions God. I missed the whole anti-religion part.
And how are children being "fed" this movie? Unlike religious parents who force their kids to go to Sunday school a child has a choice whether to see a two hour or movie or not. You have to see the inconsistency of your argument!
The movie is a piece of art, it's doesn't have an agenda to convert people to atheism even if the author's philosophy is manifested in the plot.
Even if it was designed to brainwash kids into believing in atheism it would only be doing the exact same thing as religion, albeit in a much more enjoyable way.
05 Dec 07
If they can try to sell a Christian-inspired fantasy like the Narnia books as an inoffensive, non-denominational kid's film, then they can sell secular-inspired fantasy like GC as an inoffensive non-denominational kid's film. The only reason to boycott Golden Compass is because its author professes a view that happens to conflict with your own. Which is a retarded reason to boycott anything.
06 Dec 07
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Originally posted by MarinkatombThe two meet regularly in Oxford and conspire. There are clandestine meetings in the Eagle pub in Oxford which is, of course, where Watson and Crick discovered DNA.
I think Pullman has read a lot of Dawkins, it shows in his writing. Also Dawkins mentions 'His Dark Materials' in The God delusion which is obviously not going to put Pullman on any Church Christmas card lists... 😉
Thruly, there is a world-wide conspiracy
09 Dec 07
Well, I went and seen the film this evening.
It was quite enjoyable.
It seems to me, though, that the "bad guys" in the film portrait any dictatorial regime, be it Sovietesque State capitalism, 1500's Catholicism or Saudi like Islam.
So, I don't really see why religious people are getting their knickers in a twist over it.
Well... dust... who knows?
09 Dec 07
Originally posted by shavixmirThe premise of religion is thinking one can do something to please God.
These books denigrate Christianity, trash the Catholic church, and sell the virtues of atheism
http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/article/CA6498947.html
Well... if that doesn't draw crowds to the cinema begin December, I don't know what will!
What do you's all think? Are stories like Harry Potter or "His dark materials" reason for Christia ...[text shortened]... orried?
Or is it long overdue... some kiddy films which question the premise of religion?
And that grates on the self willed because they think they are something special.
10 Dec 07
The post that was quoted here has been removedI've read the books, and this is really an extrapolation with clever wording to make it seem like a direct attack. I could say "Asrael's war on valhalla" or "Lyra and Will as Romulus and Remus" and make it appear to be an attack on any myth I choose.