19 Jul 20
@fmf saidCan or will the universe cease to exist? Will man cease to exist when the known universe ceases to exist?
Almost all religions make a leap from the belief that we were created to the belief that we will or can have everlasting life.
Doesn't this say more about the reality of human nature than it does about the reality of the universe?
What does it mean that humans look up to the sky and ask "is there more than this?" "What happens after I die?"
I think it in man's nature, as a created being, to conceive of something greater than himself, and perceive and take hold of it.
19 Jul 20
@secondson saidMost will tell you that it centers around a fear of death (or some such).
Can or will the universe cease to exist? Will man cease to exist when the known universe ceases to exist?
What does it mean that humans look up to the sky and ask "is there more than this?" "What happens after I die?"
I think it in man's nature, as a created being, to conceive of something greater than himself, and perceive and take hold of it.
19 Jul 20
-Removed-Intoxicants depress cognitive function ultimately resulting in confusional states. I suspect that whilst the literal meaning of what you have written makes little sense you wrote this with the purpose of communicating something else and so respectfully ask you what you are trying to communicate?
-Removed-If you can't see that I am pointing out to you that communication can have more than one level of meaning with reference to your history of not looking for the other person's meaning, whilst focusing on the detail of a single statement, there will be little point in engaging in this further. 😉
19 Jul 20
@secondson saidCan or will the universe cease to exist? Will man cease to exist when the known universe ceases to exist?
Can or will the universe cease to exist? Will man cease to exist when the known universe ceases to exist?
What does it mean that humans look up to the sky and ask "is there more than this?" "What happens after I die?"
I think it in man's nature, as a created being, to conceive of something greater than himself, and perceive and take hold of it.
Don't know. And don't know. We can but speculate.
What does it mean that humans look up to the sky and ask "is there more than this?" "What happens after I die?"
I think it is perfectly understandable that humans ask these questions.
I think it in man's nature, as a created being, to conceive of something greater than himself, and perceive and take hold of it.
I agree with this ~ except I would replace the last seven words with "...and perceive that they are taking hold of it."
19 Jul 20
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-Removed-Fine, I'll accept that, but you said that the desire to understand and the need to know are "powerful cognitive intoxicant(s)", and I understand how you're using "powerful cognitive intoxicant" as a metaphor to answer FMF's OP. I have no issue with that.
I guess I was merely asking for more elaboration on your initial thoughts, like maybe you might add how you think those powerful cognitive intoxicant(s)" came about.
Like, did God create in man those desires and needs"? Or perhaps they develop in man as a result of the separation from the spiritual life and fellowship with God?
Follow my drift?
19 Jul 20
@fmf saidDon't know. And don't know. We can but speculate.
Can or will the universe cease to exist? Will man cease to exist when the known universe ceases to exist?
Don't know. And don't know. We can but speculate.
What does it mean that humans look up to the sky and ask "is there more than this?" "What happens after I die?"
I think it is perfectly understandable that humans ask these questions.
[b]I think it in ...[text shortened]... except I would replace the last seven words with "...and perceive that they are taking hold of it."
I don't want to speculate. I want to know. And I do.
I think it is perfectly understandable that humans ask these questions.
I'm glad you "think it is perfectly understandable", but I asked "what does it mean"?
I agree with this ~ except I would replace the last seven words with "...and perceive that they are taking hold of it."
Interesting play on words.
I think I should have said, "I think it is in man's nature, as a created being, to perceive of something greater than himself, and take hold of it."