The Neck of the Giraffe

@kellyjay said
You assume I haven’t, what have I said do you believe is in error? Do you believe any question or criticism of the process automatically shows lack of knowledge and training?

Did you read any of my posts, granted they were long?

What concerns me is Christians trying to defend a false premise. For example, what if Lucy did have some part to play in the creation of man?

I sympathize with the thinking that the Bible and such scientific teachings seem mutually exclusive. I sympathize with it because that is how I was raised. But what if they are not mutually exclusive? If they are not, then you are unknowingly embracing a false premise, which may completely undermine the rest of your position which may be true.

I don't think that your salvation hangs in the balance either way, but I think it might for those who know science. Those that know science I think are turned off to the Bible because of Christians embracing false premises, such as the universe revolving around the Earth. We laugh at that interpretation of the Bible now, but back then, not so much.

@rookie54 said
"something that doesn’t have the possibility being completely in error"

this encompasses quite a bit...
uh, no,
this is everything...

all of it...

I think this is true but that means it could be in error so? 😉 There is a difference between opinions and facts/truth. When we are dealing with opinions, hypothesis, theories what you said I agree with your assessment, because we can do the math and come up with a sound conclusion, but that doesn’t mean we understood our variables well enough to assign the proper value before we do the math. Which is why new information can force revaluations.

@whodey said
Did you read any of my posts, granted they were long?

What concerns me is Christians trying to defend a false premise. For example, what if Lucy did have some part to play in the creation of man?

I sympathize with the thinking that the Bible and such scientific teachings seem mutually exclusive. I sympathize with it because that is how I was raised. But what if th ...[text shortened]... ng around the Earth. We laugh at that interpretation of the Bible now, but back then, not so much.

Truth is truth and if what I believe is a lie or false I would want to know. If all I get to replace what I believe is just another set of beliefs, then both should be looked at critically equally. If I am told something is evidence for this new world view it has to be questioned not just accepted because someone else is confident.

@kellyjay said
Truth is truth and if what I believe is a lie or false I would want to know. If all I get to replace what I believe is just another set of beliefs, then both should be looked at critically equally. If I am told something is evidence for this new world view it has to be questioned not just accepted because someone else is confident.

Ok, do you think the universe thousands of years old or billions?

@kellyjay said
You assume I haven’t, what have I said do you believe is in error? Do you believe any question or criticism of the process automatically shows lack of knowledge and training?

When you explain Christ's third leg to me ....

@wolfgang59 said
When you explain Christ's third leg to me ....

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@whodey said
Ok, do you think the universe thousands of years old or billions?

I think thousands but for me either way it doesn’t matter. I believe billions presents more issues than it solves.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Come on Kelly, that's a lazy response. Phil made some excellent observations there.

The format was also perfect to share 'random thoughts.'

Reading his posts on my phone and reading it on my desktop it appears quite differently. Not his fault I didn’t realize this until I got home.

@whodey said
"Biblically, Divine punctuation in the flow of life is seen in the original creation of the universe, in the creation of the ability for animal life to arise from this matter, and in the tenfold repetition of "and God said" recoded in the first chapter of Genesis. The fact that the making of man is the most intimately described event of that chapter in Genesis implies that man ...[text shortened]... cked the "image" that makes man uniquely different from other animals, being as the "image" of God."

An interesting perspective.

I think religion should always seek to incorporate scientific understanding, rather than automatically pushing it way.

@kellyjay said
Reading his posts on my phone and reading it on my desktop it appears quite differently. Not his fault I didn’t realize this until I got home.

Phil has a forgiving soul. 😆

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Phil has a forgiving soul. 😆

Good thing I need all the grace I can get. 😉

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Phil has a forgiving soul. 😆

I find the hardest person to forgive is myself....!

@kellyjay said
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The divine third leg of Christ that is fundamental to Christianity.
How does that even work?

@kellyjay said
Good thing I need all the grace I can get. 😉

Consider it done.

And for general consumption here's a bit of trivia;

I've visited the site where 'Java man' (Homo erectus, I think) was discovered (it's in Java) (funny, that) a couple of times, they have a fantastic museum there. I've been out to some dig sites, it's very easy to find fossilized deer antlers, shells and so on, and I came away with a stone cutting tool, made by a different species of hominid to my own. I keep it on my bedside table; if live gets tricky I pick it up (it fits perfectly in the hand of modern man!), it gives me a deep sense of perspective.

@wolfgang59 said
The divine third leg of Christ that is fundamental to Christianity.
How does that even work?

I have no idea what you are talking about.