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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Are these speculations or facts ?

Besides, borrowing words from other languages is as old as language itself.
true, but still GOD???
You'd think he could have come up with an original.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Just out of morbid curiosity, is this what you are on about in reference to the "Ox-Goad?"

Aleph-Lammed-Hay-Yod-Mem

Aleph : infinite, timeless, intermittant, sign of the unknowable, creation
Lammed : organic movement, functional, existent
Hay : archetype of Life itself
Yod : existence, duration in time, foundation of actuality
Mem : maternal wat ...[text shortened]... much enlightenment:

http://www.homestead.com/bibleorigins*net/YahwehsBovineFormsImages.html
http://karaites-beth-shalom.org/alephbeth.htm

and this pne too:

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Pictograms/pictograms.html

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read the excerpt from the story of aqhat:

http://www.biblicalheritage.org/Bible%20Studies/canaan-gods.htm

and oh this is cool Baal was a rain god lol

lol gods wife?
and son ?
ASHERAH and her sons shouted, the goddess and her pride of lions: "But BAAL has not house like the other gods, no court like ASHERAH's sons: EL's home, his son's shelter, lady ASHERAH-OF-THE-SEA's home, the home of the beautiful brides, the home of PIDRAY, maid of light, the shelter of TALLAY, maid of rain, the home of ARSAY, maid of floods." But EL, the kind, the compassionate replied . . "Let a house like the other gods be built for BAAL, a court like ASHERAH's sons." And lady ASHERAH-OF-THE-SEA replied: "You are great EL, you are truly wise; your gray beard truly instructs you . . .Now BAAL will begin the rainy season, the season of wadis in flood; flash his lightning to the earth.

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Originally posted by frogstomp
true, but still GOD???
You'd think he could have come up with an original.
Reading your posts I was wondering what you want with this thread. What is the aim of this discussion ?

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Originally posted by frogstomp
true, but still GOD???
You'd think he could have come up with an original.
Frogstomp: "You'd think he could have come up with an original."

Who is "he" in this context ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Frogstomp: "You'd think he could have come up with an original."

Who is "he" in this context ?
Who was I saying needed a name?

I don't always use a capital "H", ya know.

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Originally posted by frogstomp
Who was I saying needed a name?

I don't always use a capital "H", ya know.
I cannot see any reason why "EL" is unacceptable, apart from the PR reasons here and there mentioned in this thread.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
I cannot see any reason why "EL" is unacceptable, apart from the PR reasons here and there mentioned in this thread.
Of course you don't, you don't realize how much of a struggle the leaders of the Israelites had getting their people out of the temples of Baal and Asteroth. So why did they choose the father god of the Canaanites' name for their gods name?

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Originally posted by frogstomp
Of course you don't, you don't realize how much of a struggle the leaders of the Israelites had getting their people out of the temples of Baal and Asteroth. So why did they choose the father god of the Canaanites' name for their gods name?
Please, tell me.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Please, tell me.
Except that the Akkadians , the Israelites and the Canaanites all spoke semetic languages, giving rise to the impression that they all were native to Canaan, I really don't know. The Sumerians spoke an Indo-European language , but where they came from and what happened to them are mysteries. My own guess is they came from eastern Europe and western Turkey and were assimilated into the Akkadian culture over time.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Reading your posts I was wondering what you want with this thread. What is the aim of this discussion ?
That will be revealed in due time.

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Originally posted by frogstomp
Except that the Akkadians , the Israelites and the Canaanites all spoke semetic languages, giving rise to the impression that they all were native to Canaan, I really don't know. The Sumerians spoke an Indo-European language , but where they came from and what happened to them are mysteries. My own guess is they came from eastern Europe and western Turkey and were assimilated into the Akkadian culture over time.
Great .... and what now ?

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Originally posted by frogstomp
That will be revealed in due time.
Let me guess ..... uuuuh ..... The Sumerians were baaaaaad people .... Right ? ... or maybe the Arcadians (the Akkadians ... ?) were ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Let me guess ..... uuuuh ..... The Sumerians were baaaaaad people .... Right ? ... or maybe the Arcadians (the Akkadians ... ?) were ?
No, just people that formed the first civilization. The first culture that had writing, to go along with a fairly large network of cities. It's thieir writing that makes us consider them as having the first civilization.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Let me guess ..... uuuuh ..... The Sumerians were baaaaaad people .... Right ? ... or maybe the Arcadians (the Akkadians ... ?) were ?
Oh no!

I'm guessing froggy's going in the opposite direction. The Sumerians were guuud people - until those conniving and theiving Jews stole their language, their god(s) and their women. Then the Jews destroyed this advanced and peaceful civilisation with their monotheistic delusions - sort of like the Holocaust (but in reverse and 3,000 years early).

Right, froggy?

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