the poison of christianity

Originally posted by @eladar
I think you have similar feelings about your beliefs concerning Christianity? Believe as you do or else.

I've seen no reason to buy what the bible sells. You've got reason, so share. Why do you invest in the bible?

Originally posted by @eladar
Christ does take away misery, poison and death, but only for those who accept his truth.

I am asking KellyJay about the application of the catch-all slogan he uses.

Originally posted by @apathist
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Towards the end of the video Matt explains the poison very clearly.

The point of this thread is getting lost.

Believe as I do or go to hell! That view breaks families, causes hate and strife and destroys relationships. But christians advocate such crap. They do not deserve respect for this.

Originally posted by @apathist
I've seen no reason to buy what the bible sells. You've got reason, so share. Why do you invest in the bible?

So you accept what I've said.

Originally posted by @fmf
I am asking KellyJay about the application of the catch-all slogan he uses.

Good for you.

Originally posted by @apathist
And you know this how?

I've experienced it in my life.

Originally posted by @apathist
The point of this thread is getting lost.

Believe as I do or go to hell! That view breaks families, causes hate and strife and destroys relationships. But christians advocate such crap. They do not deserve respect for this.

Well all religions can have that effect. I live in a Muslim majority country and I have seen plenty of instances where religious dogma breaks or damages families (or even entire communities), causes hate and strife and destroys relationships etc. It's not an aspect of the human condition that's exclusive to Christianity. However, I reckon that for the most part, and for most people, the impact of these religions is experienced and perceived as being positive, cohesive, and strengthening with regard to their marriages, families, communities.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Well we agree.

On what scriptural basis is "Christianity a poison to the dead"?

None!

Originally posted by @apathist
The point of this thread is getting lost.

Believe as I do or go to hell! That view breaks families, causes hate and strife and destroys relationships. But christians advocate such crap. They do not deserve respect for this.

No where in Christian doctrine does it say believe as I do or go to hell.
Those on the outside looking in may view it that way, but it isn't scriptural.
What it does say is that if we die in our sins we will suffer for it, and the only way out of
that is with Jesus Christ by putting our faith in what He did for us.

Now you can reject Christ, that will not cause you to die in your sins, your sins will cause
you to die in them before a Holy God. Bottom line it is all on you!

As far as your respect goes, I was not the one that died for you Jesus did, I was not
the one that had my skin ripped of my body, that was Jesus, I was not the one that hung
naked on a cross so you could be forgiven, that was Jesus. So when it comes down to it,
if you look at anyone other than Christ, your barking up the wrong tree, Jesus reached
down to us, became one of us, died in our place for the crimes we have done, became
sin who knew no sin. That is the point of Christianity, not believe as I do.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
No where in c does it say believe as I do or go to hell.

But haven't you said numerous times that only Christians ~ i.e. those who have Christians beliefs like you ~ can avoid going to "Hell"? Yes, you have. So if it is not "Christian doctrine" that makes you say what you say about non-Christians going to "Hell", why do you say it?

Originally posted by @divegeester
On what scriptural basis is "Christianity a poison to the dead"?

None!

Isaiah 5:20King James Version (KJV)

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Originally posted by @eladar
Isaiah 5:20King James Version (KJV)

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Notwithstanding that this scripture doesn't support the claim, I'll still play along...

Quid pro quo with your defence of gluttony...do you have something NT that supports your statement?

Edit: I'm absolutely certain KellyJay won't have anything, and besides he is still on his perma-sulk anyway.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Notwithstanding that this scripture doesn't support the claim, I'll still play along...

Quid pro quo with your defence of gluttony...do you have something NT that supports your statement?

Edit: I'm absolutely certain KellyJay won't have anything, and besides he is still on his perma-sulk anyway.

Where does God define gluttony? Book and verse please.

And the verse does support the claim. Let those with eyes see.

Originally posted by @eladar
Where does God define gluttony? Book and verse please.

And the verse does support the claim. Let those with eyes see.

No...you defended your position on gluttony by stating it was not called out in the NT, so now please provide NT evidence that "Christianity is a poison to the dead"?

Originally posted by @divegeester
No...you defended your position on gluttony by stating it was not called out in the NT, so now please provide NT evidence that "Christianity is a poison to the dead"?

I asked you where God defined it.