18 Dec 14
Originally posted by FMFThat answer has been given several times by others in various ways, which you seem not able to understand. The simple answer is NO. 😏
While you may well have achieved what you wanted by posting this kind of message, you have not answered the question in the OP.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by RJHindsBut if they do not, in your view, face eternal torture, why is it that you think divegeester deserves eternal torture for also thinking that they do not face eternal torture?
That answer has been given several times by others in various ways, which you seem not able to understand. The simple answer is NO.
Originally posted by divegeesterAt the bare minimum, I believe that eternal separation from God is qualitatively the exact opposite
I was referring to those who believe in the doctrine of eternal suffering; please say if you don't believe it and I will apologise.
of an eternal relationship with Him in heaven: undesirable vs. desirable to the maximum.
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAt the bare minimum? So, what do you actually believe the 'eternal suffering' to comprise of if not this "bare minimum" you mention?
At the bare minimum, I believe that eternal separation from God is qualitatively the exact opposite
of an eternal relationship with Him in heaven: undesirable vs. desirable to the maximum.
How would "separation from God" be a punishment for people who didn't have a relationship with Him anyway on account of being non-believers?
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by divegeesterThe reason I believe in it is because the Bible seems to indicate such a place exists. Also, there is the perplexing existence of suffering in the world today, so the question is not if suffering exists, but how long does it last and to what degree?
Are you saying you don't believe in the doctrine of eternal suffering?
If so then I will apologise sincerely.
But to think I'm going to stand in judgment of these children is outrageous. I don't nor will I.
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by divegeesterMy name was included as those who thought that one must be baptized in the Christian faith in order to be saved. I clearly have never stated that.
I was prepared to apologise to you if I was wrong - apparently I wasn't wrong. Are you prepared to apologise to me for calling me a liar - when i wasn't?
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by whodeyYou called him a "liar". Did you think he was deliberately trying to deceive people? If so, why? What was it that stopped you from saying something like: I think you are mistaken?
My name was included as those who thought that one must be baptized in the Christian faith in order to be saved. I clearly have never stated that.
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by FMFA lie is an untruth whether it was mistaken or not.
You called him a "liar". Did you think he was deliberately trying to deceive people? If so, why? What was it that stopped you from saying something like: I think you are mistaken?
The fact that this is just another flame thread seems to indicate it was no mistake, but I could be wrong.
Originally posted by FMFI have not read the article on these killings. But i will put in my two cents worth.
The actions of the Taliban faction that murdered those 132 children in Peshawar are so despicable that words of condemnation just feel as if they cannot possibly match the scale and depravity of the atrocity.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30507836
Do Christians like sonship and Grampy Bobby and others believe that these slaughtered children now face an eternity of torture in burning agony for not believing in Jesus?
News media always seek out sensational views and will stir up our feelings to sell its views.
But when we are comprehending the final outcome of a soul, that will be different.
The question should be asked, WHY did the Taliban do it? We have to remember, they don't think like we do. Maybe in thier faith, these children are a threat to thier culture.
I don't like to see any slaughter.
And i don't pesume to be God either. (thank the heavens for that) But what is happening in this thread is, we are judging people based on our cultures view, and predetermining what we think God should do.
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by whodeyAre you saying before God that when you called me a "liar" that you honestly thought I was referring to baptism and not eternal suffering?
My name was included as those who thought that one must be baptized in the Christian faith in order to be saved. I clearly have never stated that.