Spirituality
16 Aug 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59Good. Now we can agree that evilution must be a false teaching.
Rocks do not become alive and apes do not become humans.
No answer my question.
People with lower intelligence than me can determine in most cases what has other than the literal meaning. It is the way they use their intelligence that makes the difference.
Certainly we know that the Bible has figures of speech, like a camel going through the eye of a needle, which is meant to be an exaggeration in the same manner as raining cats and dogs. However, the general rule is to take everything literal as long as it makes sense or unless you have some reason from the Holy Bible that conflicts with the literal interpretation. Then this has to be reconciled by using reason and logic.
The Holy Bible is like a mystery book in which you have to gather all the clues together from every portion to really understand it all. It even tells us "here a little, there a little."
But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
(Isaiah 28:13 KJV)
The Instructor
20 Aug 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59My intelligent application of reason and logic reveals to me that you are only intersested in attacking me and are not really interested in learning from...
You have repeatedly shown that you do not understand reason or logic
so how on earth can you apply them?
The Instructor
20 Aug 13
Originally posted by RJHindsNo. I am really interested in how any sane person can hold your views and
My intelligent application of reason and logic reveals to me that you are only intersested in attacking me and are not really interested in learning from...
The Instructor
spout such nonsense based on logic. Your failure to ever enter into
debate makes me wonder why you are here.
21 Aug 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59I am not here to enter into a debate with you, but to instruct in the truth of God.
No. I am really interested in how any sane person can hold your views and
spout such nonsense based on logic. Your failure to ever enter into
debate makes me wonder why you are here.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsInstruction is most effective through debate.
I am not here to enter into a debate with you, but to instruct in the truth of God.
The Instructor
If you disagree with that then you disagree with modern pedagogy and
also with Jesus.
Or do you think Jesus's teachings were dictatorial?
Originally posted by wolfgang59Mark 10:6 says, “But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’” From this passage, we see that Jesus clearly taught that the creation was young, for Adam and Eve existed “from the beginning,” not billions of years after the universe and earth came into existence. Jesus made a similar statement in Mark 13:19 indicating that man’s sufferings started very near the beginning of creation. The parallel phrases of “from the foundation of the world” and “from the blood of Abel” in Luke 11:50–51 also indicate that Jesus placed Abel very close to the beginning of creation, not billions of years after the beginning.His Jewish listeners would have assumed this meaning in Jesus’ words, for the first-century Jewish historian Josephus indicates that the Jews of his day believed that both the first day of creation and Adam’s creation were about 5,000 years before Christ.
Instruction is most effective through debate.
If you disagree with that then you disagree with modern pedagogy and
also with Jesus.
Or do you think Jesus's teachings were dictatorial?
In John 5:45–47, Jesus says, “Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” In this passage, Jesus makes it clear that one must believe what Moses wrote. And one of the passages in the writings of Moses in Exodus 20:11 states: “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.” This, of course, is the basis for our seven-day week—six days of work and one day of rest. Obviously, this passage was meant to be taken as speaking of a total of seven literal days based on the Creation Week of six literal days of work and one literal day of rest.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/did-jesus-say-he-created-in-six-days
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsYou have conveniently forgotten what our debate is about and side-stepped
Mark 10:6 says, “But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’” From this passage, we see that Jesus clearly taught that the creation was young, for Adam and Eve existed “from the beginning,” not billions of years after the universe and earth came into existence. Jesus made a similar statement in Mark 13:19 indicating that man’s su ...[text shortened]... p://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/did-jesus-say-he-created-in-six-days
The Instructor
my original question. You should have been a politician .. though maybe you
are even too dumb for that.
Originally posted by wolfgang59No, Jesus's teachings were not dictatorial. You have been given the free will to believe or not. It is up to you.
You have conveniently forgotten what our debate is about and side-stepped
my original question. You should have been a politician .. though maybe you
are even too dumb for that.
The Instructor
Originally posted by wolfgang59You made a strawman argument to debate and I already corrected it and answered all your questions. That debate is dead and there is no point in you beating a dead horse.
You have conveniently forgotten what our debate is about and side-stepped
my original question.
The Instructor