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@medullah saidYou don’t think both are about setting up a hierarchy of opinion, to claim that some people are unworthy of debate seems like the epitome of arrogance to me even though I’m guilty of thinking it myself.
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I wasn't reading anything into it like who is represented Raj. If you think of the bible parable about pearls before swine it's along those lines (to me). It tells me that some arguments are not worth having and simply should not be engaged in.
Both stories enable the teller to discount the content of the argument based on who’s making the argument. I suppose being religious leads inexorably to arrogance, because your opinion achieves a literal god like superiority in the eyes of the self.
17 Oct 21
@divegeester saidIndeed those are a couple of good questions
The story has some thin merit within it.
But who posted it and why they did is FAR more interesting.
17 Oct 21
@divegeester saidExperience
How do you know?
And doesn’t this assertion by you reveal your own certainty of opinion and belief?
I am not claiming to never make mistakes, but I am confident in my research and decision making.
I find that the greatest asset to confidence is the use of woodie words; “gorn” being the greatest example 😂 Graham Chapman I salute you !!!
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@divegeester saidAssuming objective truth doesn’t ultimately exist all discussions are ultimately pointless as no one can be objectively right or wrong about anything. That irony is lost on you.
Yes. Interesting that he hasn’t come back to defend or explore his OP.
For someone who spent a few years in this forum preaching that truth is universal and objective, I find it amusing that posts a story like the one in his OP.
He has either changed his mind on universal objective truth or has misunderstood the meaning in his own OP.
@dj2becker saidFirstly what you said isn’t “irony”.
Assuming objective truth doesn’t ultimately exist all discussions are ultimately pointless as no one can be objectively right or wrong about anything. That irony is lost on you.
Secondly your OP is an example of subjective truth, did you realise that?
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@divegeester saidAccording to Dive, ‘the grass is green’ is merely a subjective opinion.
Firstly what you said isn’t “irony”.
Secondly your OP is an example of subjective truth, did you realise that?
19 Oct 21
@dj2becker saidYou do realise that in this forum, you’re the donkey from the OP, right?
According to Dive, ‘the grass is green’ is merely a subjective opinion.
19 Oct 21
@divegeester saidClearly he does not. Had he known that he would not have started this thread.
You do realise that in this forum, you’re the donkey from the OP, right?
19 Oct 21
@dj2becker saidBut it could be. I bet there are certain types of grass that have at least some blue tint to them.
According to Dive, ‘the grass is green’ is merely a subjective opinion.
You sound like you're simply not comfortable with inductive type arguments. Well, that is too bad, because that's the best we can do on many truth questions.
19 Oct 21
@dj2becker saidColour perception is subjective.
According to Dive, ‘the grass is green’ is merely a subjective opinion.
My wife and I have often disagreed on whether something is black or very dark blue. We would bring in a third party to mediate, ratify and decide.
19 Oct 21
@sonship saidAbout wether it was blue or black?
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My wife and I have often disagreed on whether something is black or very dark blue. We would bring in a third party to mediate, ratify and decide.
At the last judgment God the final authority and ultimate decider will make literally a LAST judgment.
@divegeester saidThis is the basis for nearly all the arguing you do here.
About wether it was blue or black?
It's the result of constantly looking at everything through a big lens labeled "ME!"