20 Oct 21
@divegeester saidI imagine the ‘objective third party’ is supposed to tell you you’re both right as it’s impossible to tell the difference between a red and a green light when you’re at a signal?
Colour perception is subjective.
My wife and I have often disagreed on whether something is black or very dark blue. We would bring in a third party to mediate, ratify and decide.
@divegeester saidYou do realise that you are trying to sound absolutely certain about something? Ironic i’n it? Mr ‘subjective opinions’.
You do realise that in this forum, you’re the donkey from the OP, right?
Assuming you’re absolutely right, you’re proving my point. Assuming you’re just voicing a subjective opinion, why should anyone give a rats ass if it’s impossible for either of us to be correct?
@divegeester saidThe thread has turned into your fist swinging, as always, because, you know, it's ALL about you.
Are you following the thread or just jumping in fist swinging as usual?
@bigdogg saidFirstly would you say the statement ‘certain types of grass have at some blue tint to them’ is absolutely true or is it simply your subjective opinion?
But it could be. I bet there are certain types of grass that have at least some blue tint to them.
You sound like you're simply not comfortable with inductive type arguments. Well, that is too bad, because that's the best we can do on many truth questions.
And secondly how is it ever possible for anyone to judge if what you’re saying is true or not if objective truth does not exist?
21 Oct 21
@dj2becker saidThe story is quite nicely thougt out and marks a problem.
The donkey told the tiger:
′′The grass is blue".
The tiger replied:
′′No, the grass is green".
The discussion became heated up, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, and to do so they approached the lion, King of the Jungle.
Before reaching the clearing in the forest where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey started screaming:
′′Yo ...[text shortened]... ey aren’t. When ignorance screams, intelligence shuts up. Your peace and tranquility are worth more.
However since nobody would dream of identifying with the donkey and very few with the Tiger, the educational value will reamin low...
All people think that they got it. It is part of mental health to have a coherent and consistent personality. That should not refrain us from learning a few things about us. And sometimes we can smile about the naivite of our younger self hopefully.
@sonship saidQuite possible. Also loved Dr Seuss.
@dj2becker
Is that one of Aesop's fables?
I raised my children on the little wisdom stories in Aesop's stories about animals.
@dj2becker saidHow about a story about a bunch of animals and a Parrot that kept repeating the same tired point over and over, such that the animals all realized it was a complete waste of time to speak to the Parrot?
Firstly would you say the statement ‘certain types of grass have at some blue tint to them’ is absolutely true or is it simply your subjective opinion?
And secondly how is it ever possible for anyone to judge if what you’re saying is true or not if objective truth does not exist?
@bigdogg saidWell I see you’ve certainly attempted to answer the questions put to you. Well done.
How about a story about a bunch of animals and a Parrot that kept repeating the same tired point over and over, such that the animals all realized it was a complete waste of time to speak to the Parrot?
@dj2becker saidThanks...I gave them the exact amount of time they deserved.
Well I see you’ve certainly attempted to answer the questions put to you. Well done.
@divegeester saidI've never been a fan of gangbanging people for no reason other than you lost an argument once.
Why don’t you contribute to the discussion instead of moaning about fuk all. You’re so intellectually lazy.