15 Jul 17
Originally posted by EladarThere are all kinds of Christians,
What of wolves in sheep's clothing? Does the Bible say pretend they are Christians?
some are good and righteous,
some are average,
+and some are evil.
Sonship has come up with the ridiculous notion that when Jesus returns these evil ones get another chance to repent and to change, and mature and to become righteous, while all nonChristians will be destroyed [except of course they help Chrsitians fleeing from persecution]
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by Rajk999I figure it is rooted in the idea of purgatory.
There are all kinds of Christians,
some are good and righteous,
some are average,
+and some are evil.
Sonship has come up with the ridiculous notion that when Jesus returns these evil ones get another chance to repent and to change, and mature and to become righteous, while all nonChristians will be destroyed [except of course they help Chrsitians fleeing from persecution]
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by EladarIf the idea of purgatory is true then it does not occur when Jesus returns. It occurs before that time. Sonship is talking about in the millennial reign of Christ, these unrighteous Christians are given another chance.
I figure it is rooted in the idea of purgatory.
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by KellyJayThey are the same in a spiritual being taking up residence in one's heart.
You compared the Holy Spirit to a demon, I'd say she is right. I'd just admit you screwed
up and not try to play it off as she is some how at fault.
You seem to have a problem with this because you are unable to discern the difference between the fruits of the Holy Spirit and the fruits of something other.
Originally posted by EladarNo, and if you knew the Lord you would know that too. Saying the Holy Spirit and devils
They are the same in a spiritual being taking up residence in one's heart.
You seem to have a problem with this because you are unable to discern the difference between the fruits of the Holy Spirit and the fruits of something other.
are same only shows you have never had the Holy Spirit in you. You need to get your
heart right, Jesus said those that speak evil of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this
world or the next, and this is now twice that I know of you said something so evil about
God's Spirit it isn't funny. We are meant to have God's Spirit in us, never a demon.
Matthew 12:32
And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by KellyJayI did not say they are the same in every way. As a matter of fact they are very different.
No, and if you knew the Lord you would know that too. Saying the Holy Spirit and devils
are same only shows you have never had the Holy Spirit in you. You need to get your
heart right, Jesus said those that speak evil of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this
world or the next, and this is now twice that I know of you said something so evil about
God's Spirit it isn't funny. We are meant to have God's Spirit in us, never a demon.
Your propensity to misrepresent what I wrote just goes to show that you deceive yourself if you claim to know God.
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by EladarNo, your claims made one no different than the other...I'm not misrepresenting you...you
I did not say they are the same in every way. As a matter of fact they are very different.
Your propensity to misrepresent what I wrote just goes to show that you deceive yourself if you claim to know God.
need to get your heart right with God. You are in a dangerous place, I hope for your sake
you do not learn the hard way the difference between God's Spirit and demons...if God
teaches you that, it will not go well for you.
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by EladarHere you go. Where did I say what you claim.
Some have the holy spirit, while most have the spirit of satan within them.
The children of God will have disagreements over debatable matters. The children of God will disagree with the children of satan over the definition of sin.
The term Christian is a self proclaimed mantle so anyone can claim it.
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by KellyJayCome now child of the deceiver, quote where I said the spirit of God and the Spirit of Satan are exactly the same.
No, your claims made one no different than the other...I'm not misrepresenting you...you
need to get your heart right with God. You are in a dangerous place, I hope for your sake
you do not learn the hard way the difference between God's Spirit and demons...if God
teaches you that, it will not go well for you.
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by EladarI answered, you choose to ignore the difference as you still go on trying to justify yourself,
Yes, this is true. I did not say otherwise.
Answer my question please. Are they both spiritual beings?
making the (Holy Spirit) God, and a created evil being a devil the same.