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15 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidWell, I have experiential knowledge of having life-changing Christian faith. So my perspectives and beliefs are affected by that
Some truth requires experience, not head
knowledge alone; I can tell someone what shades of green are, but until they can
see them themselves, they can only contemplate the possibility, and no amount
of thinking about it ever will do it.
15 Aug 22
@fmf saidWhen it comes to Jesus Christ, He is a living Hope, not something we have to
When you talk about you "knowing the truth about supernatural beings and phenomena" and me not "knowing" it, you are merely referring to your own certainty about the veracity of the conclusions you personally draw from your speculation.
get our facts about right; there is a difference.
1 Peter 1:3
English Standard Version
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
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15 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidA living hope for you Kelly, not everybody.
When it comes to Jesus Christ, He is a living Hope, not something we have to
get our facts about right; there is a difference.
What if Jesus, in reality, was not the son of God? Isn't that factually important?
15 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidAll theists, regardless of the religious tradition they subscribe to, derive "hope" from their faith. Indeed, that is arguably the very purpose of theism.
When it comes to Jesus Christ, He is a living Hope, not something we have to
get our facts about right; there is a
15 Aug 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf you view reality as something that is different for each of us I could agree with you, but that isn’t the case, we live and have our being in the same universe on the same planet 🌎 our opinions may vary but not the reality we live in.
A living hope for you Kelly, not everybody.
What if Jesus, in reality, was not the son of God? Isn't that factually important?
15 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidDo you realize that this constant rhetorical refrain from you does not bolster or affect the credibility of your personal opinions about reality [in these matters], nor does it affect or diminish the credibility of what Ghost of a Duke believes?
If you view reality as something that is different for each of us I could agree with you, but that isn’t the case, we live and have our being in the same universe on the same planet 🌎 our opinions may vary but not the reality we live in.
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15 Aug 22
@divegeester saidI’ve had pm’s with you, trust me your not that sharp, just hateful and rude, also don’t bet on it your not hard to figure out also. Your club of three is nothing but a joke striving to bring childish antics into the forums filled with disruptive post. Just because you can write a certain way, use big words etc. doesn’t mean you have understanding and intelligence. I think your group should be silent, you know what the Bible says about fools.
I think you are totally incapable of what you are stating here.
15 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidYou began this strange logic, I merely turned it around to try to demonstrate to you how ridiculous it is.
No, you can not find a right answer among only wrong answers; if that is your
thinking, wow. That would be like getting a multi-choice test and none of the
choices you are allowed to pick are correct. Being wrong means, we missed
the correct response; having nothing but wrong responses shows how lost we
are on that topic. You should start to contemplate reality, it doesn't contradict
itself, that is the only reality here.
Maybe you should apply the 'wow' factor to your beliefs; here are some examples:
'Wow, my religious beliefs require that I think that snakes can talk.'
or
'Wow, I worship and give thanks and praise to a god who I believe quite deliberately and consciously makes sick and suffering children.'
or
'Wow, I believe that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins, but wow, here we are still sinning and being punished for our sins, so wow, wasn't that a waste of time.'
or
'Wow, the only reason I'm a Christian is that I happen to have been born into a predominately Christian society.'
or
'Wow, my religious beliefs require me to ignore all scientific evidence that flies in the face of my belief that a man and a women just popped onto the earth, ready to rock and roll.'
You could wow yourself to sleep every night.
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15 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidYou're missing the point. If, 'in reality', Jesus was not the son of God, then whatever you believe about him is factually incorrect and renders your personal belief meaningless.
If you view reality as something that is different for each of us I could agree with you, but that isn’t the case, we live and have our being in the same universe on the same planet 🌎 our opinions may vary but not the reality we live in.
Reality is the same for all of us, but you don't get to define that reality based on your personal beliefs. Why you struggle with that mystifies me.
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15 Aug 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump his butt every time it jumps. Your reality is the worlds, your blinded.
You're missing the point. If, 'in reality', Jesus was not the son of God, then whatever you believe about him is factually incorrect and renders your personal belief meaningless.
Reality is the same for all of us, but you don't get to define that reality based on your personal beliefs. Why you struggle with that mystifies me.
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15 Aug 22
@fmf saidAnd yours does😁😁💤
Do you realize that this constant rhetorical refrain from you does not bolster or affect the credibility of your personal opinions about reality [in these matters], nor does it affect or diminish the credibility of what Ghost of a Duke believes?
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15 Aug 22
@fmf saidI don’t feel the need too talk to you, it’s your foolish content I have an issue with.
Don't feel you need to talk to me.
I've taken the time to type a few replies to your mixture of assertions and silly disinhibited banter, and you don't appear to understand what I am saying. You, an entitled anonymous nobody without even a single in-good-faith conversation under your belt, questioning my "honesty" or courage is just pointless.
As I say, don't feel you need to talk to me.
Why do you spend so much time here if you don’t believe in God and have no grievances. Why mess with us then wouldn’t it be the same?
Grievances? 😁😁??
Yes I lowered it just so you know it’s a question. If you can’t figure out questions let me know with a pm and I can point this out each time.
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15 Aug 22
@mike69 saidWhile you're a little out of your depth in this forum.
If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump his butt every time it jumps. Your reality is the worlds, your blinded.