Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell the one that I used to have is long gone. A victim of the economy... 🙁
can i have your car? if you were a real Christian you would charitably give it to me in good conscience that it was going to a needy cause, the need for speed! vroooooooom vroooooooom 😉
But if I still had it my friend, it would be yours if you could drive it home over the Big Pond? Lol.
Oh..welcome back...
Originally posted by menace71Hey Manny. Lets play a game soon.
Hey G-75 🙂
The only reason I say this is for example the thief on the cross. Jesus never said first understand GOD IN ALL of his glory then you can be with me in paradise. Maybe a lame example but does intellectual right knowledge necessarily please God? How about the Jews of old. They understood God in an orthodoxical sense but their hearts were not in the right place.
Manny
Anyway no, one does not have to have the correct knowledge to be accepted by God and the example you gave is a good one. No doubt Jesus could read the heart of the man and knew that he would no doubt have been different in his life if he had been raised in a god fearing home.
So it would be fair to say that when the end of this system comes and ones are judged afterwards, it will be their heart conditions that will be seen by Jesus and his Father.
But.... the thing too that Jesus and his father are looking for are ones that are teachable, sheeplike, willing to do the "Works" he taught us to do and looking to not only learn but we willing to leave behind any possible wrong or pagan teachings that may be a part of the religion their in.
Obviously according to many scriptures in the Bible that not all out there, religions, are doing things right.
So all I'm saying is if one is really concerned about their future and the furture of their family, absolutly, positively make sure that your belief or the religion your in is following the Bible correctly. Test it everyday.
God does not force anyone to love or worship him, but Satan is doing everything in his power to stop us from doing that. And he completely uses religion in it's many forms and certianly uses confusion on us all. Take care...
Originally posted by galveston75RC wants to do some speeding on the motor ways there 😉
Well the one that I used to have is long gone. A victim of the economy... 🙁
But if I still had it my friend, it would be yours if you could drive it home over the Big Pond? Lol.
Oh..welcome back...
Manny
PS: we will have to play again soon G-75 (Steve)
Originally posted by galveston75what you guys mean, we got hundreds of miles of backroads, those farmers thinks its a formula one the way they drive. When i get my electric powered bicycle i will be doing 40-48 Kph on them, 😀 here if the police catch you doing more than 100mph on the motorway i think its an instant ban. Some idiot in his BMW was caught fairly recently on the Fife road doing 156.7 Mph
Yes,The Autobahn would be a dream come true!!!! Not in Robbie's neck of the woods but it would be so fine.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat's not cool on a public road but fun on a road racing coarse..
what you guys mean, we got hundreds of miles of backroads, those farmers thinks its a formula one the way they drive. When i get my electric powered bicycle i will be doing 40-48 Kph on them, 😀 here if the police catch you doing more than 100mph on the motorway i think its an instant ban. Some idiot in his BMW was caught fairly recently on the Fife road doing 156.7 Mph
Originally posted by FabianFnasStill waiting on a comment of these three statements, robbie.
(*) It is important to show the author of a text not written by oneslf.
(*) There are paedophiles within Jehowas Witnesses.
(*) Personal attacks are always bad rethorics.
Still waiting on an apology of your outburst on me and others that don't have the same beliefs as you have.
trying to understand spiritual metaphors solely through logic is like trying to use a microscope to determine why a great song is beautiful.
or, if you do want to use logic...you need some reference points to have some better idea what the metaphor is about.
There is a very detailed discussion of this in a Hindu mystic book - "The Holy Science" - by Sri Yukteswar. He was the Guru of Paramahansa Yogananda. Paramahansa Yogananda met with Gandhi and one can pretty much assume, from that interaction, that Gandhi viewed him as a saint...
From my (very limited) understanding - The Father represents the transcendental nature of God. The Son represents when an individual soul spiritually attains the height of that transcendental nature - thus becoming a "son" of "God" by experiencing the same height of consciousness.
the Holy Ghost being a metaphor for the individual soul (us) as we aspire to the spiritual heights.
I really don't think it is much more complicated than that...though how it all manifests can be...
Originally posted by r99pawn77In the Bible it's never been complicated. The Father/Jehovah, the Son/Jesus, and the Holy Spirit/Jehovah's active force or power.
trying to understand spiritual metaphors solely through logic is like trying to use a microscope to determine why a great song is beautiful.
or, if you do want to use logic...you need some reference points to have some better idea what the metaphor is about.
There is a very detailed discussion of this in a Hindu mystic book - "The Holy Science" - by ...[text shortened]... don't think it is much more complicated than that...though how it all manifests can be...
But religion has come up with many ideas of it and when false and paganistic beliefs were thrown into the mix, then it became complicated.
Originally posted by galveston75How many gods are there?
In the Bible it's never been complicated. The Father/Jehovah, the Son/Jesus, and the Holy Spirit/Jehovah's active force or power.
But religion has come up with many ideas of it and when false and paganistic beliefs were thrown into the mix, then it became complicated.
Is Jehovah a god? Is Jesus a god? Does that mean there are two gods?
God's his own son...reminds me of this song:
Originally posted by AThousandYoungVery funny. I do remember that song and that does show the sillyness that the Trinity is.
How many gods are there?
Is Jehovah a god? Is Jesus a god? Does that mean there are two gods?
God's his own son...reminds me of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw
Originally posted by menace71I know there are many areas out in West Texas that you can pretty much do the speed you want as long as your not doing something crazy... Sometimes out there your nearest neighbor or town may be a few miles away.
80 East & West I routinely get up to 70 - 80 MPH even with an CHP academy half way through my commute to work. If you don't go with the flow of traffic you will get ran off the road.
Manny