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03 Jul 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelperhaps you have some comment on the actual illustration of water, taken from the Buddhist context and how it treats those things which oppose it, then you may make reference to wit, dim, or both.
"obstacles"....peh!!!
What a dim-witted comment.
03 Jul 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou called me and Fabs "obstacles". WTF?
perhaps you have some comment on the actual illustration of water, taken from the Buddhist context and how it treats those things which oppose it, then you may make reference to wit, dim, or both.
What are we obstacles to? Taking up one of the 144 000 positions availablble?
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03 Jul 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelLol, yup, it certainly is, you have little or no understanding of Christianity or apparently Buddhism.
You called me and Fabs "obstacles". WTF?
What are we obstacles to? Taking up one of the 144 000 positions availablble?
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03 Jul 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelRobbie is one of those who see people as friends (agree with him) or enemies (disagree with him), it's a part of his diagnosis. Black and white. White and black. Nothing in between.
You called me and Fabs "obstacles". WTF?
What are we obstacles to? Taking up one of the 144 000 positions availablble?
Now he sees us as his enemies. After a while he will forget about it.
03 Jul 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelDon't take on the fight. They have already lost the debate.
How do you make a "muffled laugh" text on the pc?
Whenever they lower themselves to a personal attack fight, then they don't have any more logical arguments. They are lost.
We all know by now that Jehovas Witnesses have problems with paedophiles. Their big problem, however, is that they're trying to hide it. The children, the victims of these JW paeodphiles, are the big losers. The abusers sit safe with the protection from their elder.
There are a lot of sources if you google for "Jehowa's wittnes paedophiles", tons of them which back my point.
This problem is what triggers robbies behaviour. He protects the paedophiles safety. He thinks that everyone *not* protecting JW with their paedophilia problems shold see a mental doctor. This is a normal cult behaviour. Nothing to care about. robbies behaviour shows a clearcut cultist behaviour that shows robbies own nature.
I am about to start a thread about this problem. Not under Spiritual Forum, because it is not a spiritual matter, but under the Debate Forum were anyone can discuss their problems.
03 Jul 10
Originally posted by galveston75Lol, actually Galvo, im wearing soccer boots, can i just kick them into touch instead, or perhaps drop kick them over the moon 😀
Just wipe your feet of them Robbie. They are here to only argue with no substance of thought.
what we are in fact battling against is sheer ignorance. look at the post Karoly Poly made which betray his lack of understanding and ignorance, he accuses us of,
1. making forced confessions by preaching about hell-fire and damnation? Ask yourself how can that be when we dont even believe nor profess the teaching of hell? the answer ignorance and prejudice.
2.He accuses us of stating that those who shall see life is limited to 144,000 persons, not understanding that they are followed by an innumerable large crowd which no man is able to number, out of every tribe tongue and nation. Why?, simple ignorance and prejudice.
3. He was presented by a illustration taken directly from a Buddhist context, in explaining how water has a tendency to simply move around obstacles, yet he is unable to see his own reflection in that he is, from our standpoint, an opponent, and failed, because of his egocentricity, to get the point. Why, he has a form of worship that has proven false to its own power, in that it has failed to make him submit to correction and thus he cannot become egoless. A confused man, unsteady in all his ways.
thus my friend the battle against ignorance continues, but take heart, not even a little light can be overcome by so great a darkness!
03 Jul 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieGive it a rest, robbie, do something useful of your life instead... Have a life!
Lol, actually Galvo, im wearing soccer boots, can i just kick them into touch instead, or perhaps drop kick them over the moon 😀
what we are in fact battling against is sheer ignorance. look at the post Karoly Poly made which betray his lack of understanding and ignorance, he accuses us of,
1. making forced confessions by preaching about hell ...[text shortened]... rance continues, but take heart, not even a little light can be overcome by so great a darkness!
03 Jul 10
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Originally posted by FabianFnasFabian i shall give a piece of free advice, unsolicited i know. You see when a person posts something, it generally has some content, a meaning, a point. You have a mind, to reason with, to gain understanding and knowledge. What that means in the context of a forum is, that you may just once or twice, actually address the content of a post, that is, its meaning and intent.
Give it a rest, robbie, do something useful of your life instead... Have a life!
Here is a clue, if you read the words and just let your thoughts form for a moment, before your ego engages itself, before your prejudice has turned those thoughts into a non reality, before you assign some intangible value or attribute some disreputable agency to it, you shall get an indication of what is intended, the thoughts and ideas of the poster. This is important for you, for not only will it aid your skills of communication you just may be able to build some friendships, all because you actually managed to address the salient points of the poster, now isn't that worthwhile?
let me tell you a little about my friends on this site. I have a very kind and generous friend who pays for my subscription, spiritually an atheist and a beautiful person whose posts i have enjoyed and continue to do so. I have a friend from Canada, who sent me, at his own cost, two Cds with chess programs on them, for my enjoyment. I have friends from America, friends from Germany, friends from Australia, friends from Greece, friends who send me songs, friends who send me photographs, even friends from England! whose friendships i really do value. If you had as good friends as i do, you would be a lucky man, and may talk to others about this life or that life.
04 Jul 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasYou're right.
Don't take on the fight. They have already lost the debate.
Whenever they lower themselves to a personal attack fight, then they don't have any more logical arguments. They are lost.
We all know by now that Jehovas Witnesses have problems with paedophiles. Their big problem, however, is that they're trying to hide it. The children, the victims of thes ...[text shortened]... not a spiritual matter, but under the Debate Forum were anyone can discuss their problems.
(Maybe its "Loq"?...Lol!)
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieMan, that is so insulting, and I dont really care. Why am I even posting?,oh yeah, probably the ignorance bit. Oh no, hang on, it was "sheer ignorance",right?
Lol, actually Galvo, im wearing soccer boots, can i just kick them into touch instead, or perhaps drop kick them over the moon 😀
what we are in fact battling against is sheer ignorance. look at the post Karoly Poly made which betray his lack of understanding and ignorance, he accuses us of,
1. making forced confessions by preaching about hell ...[text shortened]... rance continues, but take heart, not even a little light can be overcome by so great a darkness!
Not everything is black and white.
I got your bhuddist analogy just fine😛
You know me better than this. You know I dont share the same views as Fabian, yet I cant help but detect a knee-jerk reaction(for some reason),to points that I dont agree with or have a different take on.
I remember even agreeing with you sometimes but you still had pent-up tension and ,if I remember correctly, did not want friends like me.
I say unto thee Robbie Carrobie, who is wordy and somewhat worldy, and could even fly a banner of intelligence within the JW community- your destiny is to be with me. Not Jehova.
So chill.
That which is strong and reliable does not need defending😉 OK?
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04 Jul 10
Originally posted by galveston75Well, if you interpret it literally, they are Jews from the original twelve tribes of Israel (Rev. 7:5) and all male virgins (Rev. 14: 1-5). Of course, a literal translation is ridiculous. It would mean that Peter (not a virgin), the Blessed Mother (not a male), and Charles Taze Russell (not a Jew) could not be in heaven. Although the last one is not so absurd unless you are a JW.
You tell me then who the 144,000 are spoken of in the Bible? It has to mean something or somebody doing something. Is it there to just to have us argue over and scratch our heads about? Is it not possible that somebody somewhere might just have the insight to know this? Or is the Bible just something to sit around, read and be confused about? Tell us....
04 Jul 10
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Originally posted by Conrau Kbiggest spirituality fail ever!
Well, if you interpret it literally, they are Jews from the original twelve tribes of Israel (Rev. 7:5) and all male virgins (Rev. 14: 1-5). Of course, a literal translation is ridiculous. It would mean that Peter (not a virgin), the Blessed Mother (not a male), and Charles Taze Russell (not a Jew) could not be in heaven. Although the last one is not so absurd unless you are a JW.
Paul speaks of a Jew as being, not a literal Jew, but one with a 'circumcision of the heart', he qualifies this by making the statement, 'spiritual Israel', Peter himself, states to both Greeks and Jews, that they were to be a holy nation, to declare abroad the excellencies of the one who called them forth. Now putting all these constituent parts together, one can readily discern that 'a new nation', was being born, the nation of spiritual Israel, and if one then is able, to apply this understanding to the context of the tribes mention in the book of revelation, it takes on an entirely different meaning, altogether, and you assertion is lying on the forum floor, in a decrepit and pathetic state, stamped with large red letters, FAILED!