@galveston75 saidBe careful? For what? God choose Hitler, God choose Judas. What the hell kind of God do you believe in? Your God only does nice things ? God controls all these things. God is also in charge in evil in the world as well. Which God instructed Saul to destroy the Amalekites, men women, children, cattle, sheep .. every living thing. Which God told Satan to do what he wants with Job?
Of course it is. I wasn't implying they would but just asking all here. But could you show the scripture that says God "chooses" who rules or governs the governments of the world, if that is what you are saying? If it is then you'd be saying that ones like Hitler, Putin, and Trump were placed there by God? Be careful.....
Your Watchtower Organization has a few loose screws and you people need to read the bible. By the way we had this discussion some time ago and I provided the references.
Is Trump as evil as Hitler etc ? Why do you say that?
@rajk999 saidWow! Are you serious? I knew you were off on many things about the Bible and Jehovah but I had no idea you were this off.....
Be careful? For what? God choose Hitler, God choose Judas. What the hell kind of God do you believe in? Your God only does nice things ? God controls all these things. God is also in charge in evil in the world as well. Which God instructed Saul to destroy the Amalekites, men women, children, cattle, sheep .. every living thing. Which God told Satan to do what he wants w ...[text shortened]... ome time ago and I provided the references.
Is Trump as evil as Hitler etc ? Why do you say that?
@galveston75 saidWow ???!! Here is one
Wow! Are you serious? I knew you were off on many things about the Bible and Jehovah but I had no idea you were this off.....
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.(Daniel 4:17 KJV)
Read it, and answer the following questions:
1. Who does the bible say rules in the Kingdom of men?
2. Who does the bible say that God gives to rule in the Kingdom of Men.
3. Does God only put good people to rule?
Class over. Tomorrow I will give you the other verse where it says God is in charge of all the evil in the world.... you dam fool... go read your bible instead of reading all that Watchtower nonsense.
Who is off now ?
God is in charge of, knows about, carries out, all the evil in the world. Satan is just a tool that God uses to carry out His divine plan for mankind. As usual you JWs have failed to read the bible.
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6 KJV)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7 KJV)
Consider the work of God: for who can make that straight, which he hath made crooked? In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him. (Ecclesiastes 7:13-14 KJV)
The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name. Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms; And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;
(Jeremiah 51:19-21 KJV)
Q : Who created evil ? Satan? NO.
A : God. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7 KJV)
@rajk999 saidSorry but class is far from over. Will answer you tomorrow but with you're misunderstandings of these scriptures and who you think Jehovah is as well as his son Jesus, it's no wonder you have such a mean, condescending and rude attitude towards just about all who comment here.
God is in charge of, knows about, carries out, all the evil in the world. Satan is just a tool that God uses to carry out His divine plan for mankind. As usual you JWs have failed to read the bible.
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (Amos 3:6 KJV)
I form the light, and cr ...[text shortened]... arkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7 KJV)
You show none of the loving qualities that Jesus had and ones that a true follower of Jesus should have and be towards all.
So no, class is not over at all.....
@galveston75 saidLook whos talking. The most arrogant of Christian sects is complaining that someone else is condescending and mean. Dont like competition? All your years of ridiculing people here .. must be over 10 years now, you want people to be loving to you? I am mean to people like you. You and your cult condemns the entire world because your cult teaches that ONLY YOUR RELIGION will be in the Kingdom of God.. Is that what you call nice, loving and humble? I am mean to the right people, arrogant hypocritical Christians. I am very nice to honest decent atheists and others, who actually believe in the teachings of Christ. I know who to be meant to.
Sorry but class is far from over. Will answer you tomorrow but with you're misunderstandings of these scriptures and who you think Jehovah is as well as his son Jesus, it's no wonder you have such a mean, condescending and rude attitude towards just about all who comment here.
You show none of the loving qualities that Jesus had and ones that a true follower of Jesus should have and be towards all.
So no, class is not over at all.....
Class is over because I remember discussing this same point with you some years ago and your response to that passage in Daniel was just Watchtower mumbo jumbo that only a JW will believe. Your memory, like your bible knowledge is $hitty.
@galveston75 saidit's no wonder you have such a mean, condescending and rude attitude towards just about all who comment here.
it's no wonder you have such a mean, condescending and rude attitude towards just about all who comment here.
You show none of the loving qualities that Jesus had and ones that a true follower of Jesus should have and be towards all.
Do you ever reflect upon whether or not you exhibit a "mean, condescending and rude attitude towards just about all who comment here"? Serious question.
You show none of the loving qualities that Jesus had and ones that a true follower of Jesus should have and be towards all.
Do you believe you show "the loving qualities that Jesus had and ones that a true follower of Jesus should have and be towards all"? Once again, this is genuine question.
@galveston75 saidOK then. I shall "be careful". Romans 13 verses 1-5?
But could you show the scripture that says God "chooses" who rules or governs the governments of the world, if that is what you are saying? If it is then you'd be saying that ones like Hitler, Putin, and Trump were placed there by God? Be careful.....
@fmf saidAn excellent passage. Yet he will ignore the bible, clear bible references and refer to JW nonsense explanations. He is going to explain all about Satan and Satan ruling the world nosense. The man is a nutcase. If the bible say Satan rules the world, then he rules the world with Gods permission and consent. There is no other way otherwise it means that Satan is more powerful than God.
OK then. I shall "be careful". Romans 13 verses 1-5?
@rajk999 saidhttps://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200004262
Look whos talking. The most arrogant of Christian sects is complaining that someone else is condescending and mean. Dont like competition? All your years of ridiculing people here .. must be over 10 years now, you want people to be loving to you? I am mean to people like you. You and your cult condemns the entire world because your cult teaches that ONLY YOUR RELIGION will ...[text shortened]... chtower mumbo jumbo that only a JW will believe. Your memory, like your bible knowledge is $hitty.
No need to keep wasting my time.
@galveston75 saidhttps://youthinkIhavetimetowaste.com
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200004262
No need to keep wasting my time.
@galveston75 saidTypical JW mo.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200004262
No need to keep wasting my time.
- Ask a question, loaded and looking for an answer contrary to WT
- Got a correct answer based on clear bible teaching
- Cannot refute the responses, so you divert into the personalities.
- Went digging into the bible references [So far from FMF and myself], and cannot fault it.
- Return with a link to the JW website for nonsense teachings that we have heard and read and discarded sa utter rubbish years ago.
FAILURE !!
@galveston75 said
If Jesus or the apostles were on earth today, who would they have voted for?
Enough said.
@galveston75 saidIf the forum scrutiny gets too much you could always pretend to be popping down the beach for a couple of days again, and then disappear for a month. Or maybe there’s another sick relative you need to attend to.
No need to keep wasting my time.