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Originally posted by @fmfWhich category do you fall under in the Parable of the Sower?
I don't believe in your god figure. I don't believe Jesus was a divine being. If you have - despite your apparent protestations to the contrary earlier - been addressing me over the ways, as I suggested, as a person you assert "knows" that Jesus is real but who doesn't want to admit it, just say so, rather than all this preening about me digging up quotes.
“And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.”
(Matthew 13:3-8)
The explanation...
“Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”
(Matthew 13:18-23)
12 Mar 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNow you are beign obtuse and assuming that any possible reference to worship of Satan literally means theistic Satanism, when not even the most famous forms of Satanism are literal theistic Satanism.
In another thread, a Christian made this casual statement:
"Atheism is only a temporary stop along the way to Satan worship."
In response, I would like to offer a rather contentious rebuttal. An atheist rejects the existence of God and with it all biblical myth, which includes stories of devils and demons. An atheist doesn't reject God in or ...[text shortened]... g the battle, and deciding therefore to switch allegiance? (Yep, that was the contentious bit).
90% of Satanism today, as it stands, is rational egoism with Cosplay.
Satanism means worship of the self and the inversion of the holy in an abstract sense, e.g., entirely egocentric behavior and anthropocentric behavior coupled with praising things we believe are not holy.
Satanism can also mean, of course, cartoon theistic Satanism with those literal freaks running around in costumes... But that is not what is meant at all.
Surely, as a psychologist and a smart guy, you knew that, Duke. You just choose to disregard the proper interpretation and the right argument and instead want to attack the strawman.
bad form, my friend, bad form.
12 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I suggest you discuss it with a Christian.
Which category do you fall under in the Parable of the Sower?
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Originally posted by @fmfI thought you used to be a Christian - not that there’s really any such thing as a former Christian. Let’s say you came mighty close.
I suggest you discuss it with a Christian.
Did you not understand Christianity? Or did the cares of this world take precedence? My guess is you weren’t persecuted because of it.
I think you didn’t understand it because even now you don’t understand the basic and fundamental tenets of it. Either that or your claim of being a “former Christian” is a lie. You certainly wouldn’t be the first atheist to do that.
12 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Thanks for your perspective.
I think you didn’t understand it because even now you don’t understand the basic and fundamental tenets of it. Either that or your claim of being a “former Christian” is a lie. You certainly wouldn’t be the first atheist to do that.
12 Mar 18
Originally posted by @fmfYep, he’s done it me several times too. Even twice on the same “quote”, the “hung in chains of punishment as a warning to those on other worlds” classic.
Nope. Not falling for this deceitful deflecting gimmick again, sonship. And it's not just me who has noticed how often you use it.
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Originally posted by @sonshipThe trouble you have is that you copy so much stuff from other writers that you forget what you’ve written.
When I say, "Show me the quote" I want to see the context and exactly what I said. That is if you are correct that I did write something as you claim.
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Originally posted by @romans1009Why on earth would you expect an atheist to self-categorise themselves using a theist classification model?
Which category do you fall under in the Parable of the Sower?
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Originally posted by @divegeesterThe parable refers to those who heard The Word and abandoned it for different reasons. I was trying to ascertain the reason.
Why on earth would you expect an atheist to self-categorise themselves using a theist classification model?
12 Mar 18
Originally posted by @romans1009By asking an atheist to self classify themself, yes I saw.
The parable refers to those who heard The Word and abandoned it for different reasons. I was trying to ascertain the reason.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterRight. So did he not understand The Word, did the cares of this world render The Word null and void in his mind, was he persecuted because of The Word, etc.
By asking an atheist to self classify themself, yes I saw.
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Originally posted by @romans1009You seem to think I’m interested in discussing it (FMF’s turn from the faith) with you. This is the only observation I’m interested in:
Right. So did he not understand The Word, did the cares of this world render The Word null and void in his mind, was he persecuted because of The Word, etc.
(To Romans1009) “Why on earth would you expect an atheist to self-categorise themselves using a theist classification model?”
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Originally posted by @divegeesterI already answered that.
You seem to think I’m interested in discussing it (FMF’s turn from the faith) with you. This is the only observation I’m interested in:
(To Romans1009) “Why on earth would you expect an atheist to self-categorise themselves using a theist classification model?”
Much as I’d love to spend the evening typing gibberish with you, I think I may actually go to bed.
I see Karoly’s back online. Maybe you and FMF can pool whizz with him too.
How’s Ghost, by the way? I heard he collapsed from exhaustion after trolling like a young un.