Understanding the Bible: A Discussion on Luke 18:18-27"

@kellyjay said
If you are going to talk about salvation and grace according to biblical definition then you should be able to talk about what grace is and what we are being saved from and why we need to be.

Do you know what grace is?

@pettytalk said
Grace in a nutshell.

In essence, grace is when any of us admit we are wrong. What is not grace is showing resentment because we were proven wrong. Losing graciously means thanking others when we are shown to be wrong for our own good.

Grace involves saving others from their deeply ingrained prejudices. It is God's ultimate act of mercy, used sparingly and reserved for a select few—those whom God employs to carry out His will in doing his dirty work.

@kellyjay said
No, repentance is when we admit we are wrong and change our ways. Grace is unmerited forgiveness by the one wronged.

@pettytalk said
Have you wronged anyone?

@kellyjay said
Plenty

@pettytalk said
Good & Plenty?

Probably not enough to warrant spending more than a couple of days in hell. You won't require grace for that. Moreover, in preaching your gospel you're already settling some of your debts by tolerating a few individuals here, including myself now.

However, it's essential for everyone to understand that before reaching heaven, we must pass through hell.

@pettytalk said
Grace in a nutshell.

In essence, grace is when any of us admit we are wrong. What is not grace is showing resentment because we were proven wrong. Losing graciously means thanking others when we are shown to be wrong for our own good.

Grace involves saving others from their deeply ingrained prejudices. It is God's ultimate act of mercy, used sparingly and reserved for a select few—those whom God employs to carry out His will in doing his dirty work.

@rajk999 said
The Grace of God is about this.

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; (Titus 2:11-12 KJV)

Whatever you are on about has nothing to do with what the bible says. If it is in the bible please provide some references.

@rajk999 said
The Grace of God is about this.

For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; (Titus 2:11-12 KJV)

Whatever you are on about has nothing to do with what the bible says. If it is in the bible please provide some references.

@pettytalk said
Are you serious?

@pettytalk said
You choose your path, and I'll choose mine. As I mentioned earlier, you and KellyJay are essentially classmates. The distinction lies in the fact that you've been raised in different parts of the pond. Both of you are fish, ironically, the symbol for Christians. You two pick different cherries, and that's the extent of it. While Kelly is obstinate, he's a gentle angelfish; you, on the other hand, are a vicious moray eel.

Pilate asked Jesus, are you king of the Jews? Jesus responded, is that your idea or did others talk to you about me?

Some will say Jesus didn't freely have loving-kindness, or Charity must involve sacrifice. I think the gift of mercy is downplayed in making so decisive accounts of truth. Questioning serves the ears questioning, poor as they may be.

@mchill said
I beg to differ-

John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. “

@kingdavid403 said
I agree with your interpretation here.
[John 14:8-9 NKJV] 8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 😉

@rajk999 said
Three separate and distinct entities.
Not equal.
Jesus is the firstborn or begotton of creation.