Universe's Origins

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Nothing circular about that statement. 🙂

We're at Spiritual Forum, aren't we? Here circular statements are okay.

Like in: "Is the bible true?" "Yes, of course, it says so, in the bible!" 🙂

Ask me in the Science Forum, and you will have a better answer.

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
We're at Spiritual Forum, aren't we? Here circular statements are okay.

Like in: "Is the bible true?" "Yes, of course, it says so, in the bible!" 🙂

Ask me in the Science Forum, and you will have a better answer.

The Bible doesn't say it's true it simply declares its truth, you can accept or reject it.

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
We're at Spiritual Forum, aren't we? Here circular statements are okay.

Like in: "Is the bible true?" "Yes, of course, it says so, in the bible!" 🙂

Ask me in the Science Forum, and you will have a better answer.

Why would your answer be different in that forum than this one?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
The Bible doesn't say it's true it simply declares its truth, you can accept or reject it.

I choose to reject it.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Why would your answer be different in that forum than this one?

Because Spiritual reasoning and Scientific reasoning are different.
As I usually say: Religion and Science cannot be mixed, they occupy different domains.

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
Because Spiritual reasoning and Scientific reasoning are different.
As I usually say: Religion and Science cannot be mixed, they occupy different domains.

Yes, no, maybe reasons are just that, reasoning takes in the various variables and we come to conclusions which may or may not be acceptable to others, or reflects reality. The fact you tell me that you think that there are different domains shows me your views about reality rests in one not the other, there isn't a bridge where reality meets both.

Do you think that in some places that the spiritual is more accurate than science

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Do you think that in some places that the spiritual is more accurate than science

In spiritual matters, yes.

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
Because Spiritual reasoning and Scientific reasoning are different.
As I usually say: Religion and Science cannot be mixed, they occupy different domains.

Two sides of the same coin, they are.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Two sides of the same coin, they are.

Exactly, and the two sides of the same coin never meet.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Two sides of the same coin, they are.

Thank you Yoda.

Originally posted by @eladar
Hpw could life have come into existence?

Good question.

The answer has nothing to do with evolution.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Every process begins, if the start of it could not happen, what makes you think it could
work at all? I believe in evolution, but not abiogenesis, which means life started by design
and all the little tweaks that evolution gives us are all part of a natural process. You take
away the design, I don't think it is possible, all of the living systems would ...[text shortened]... not
becomes more complex by adding additional organs and systems over time by random
changes.

According to our understanding of evolution, organs gradually evolved from much simpler lifeforms. So if you reject this, then you reject evolution altogether.

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
In spiritual matters, yes.

That means what? You think that those two are different universes or something?

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
Exactly, and the two sides of the same coin never meet.

That doesn't mean that they don't speak to and share truth about the same universe. If God is real for example science may be blind to Him, but that doesn't mean He is not real.

Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Good question.

The answer has nothing to do with evolution.

Can living things evolve if nothing lives?