12 Nov 15
Originally posted by wolfgang59You prove my point again.
There is only so much one can teach the smartest chimp.
When the chimp can no longer learn it is not the fault of the handlers.
Lacking any support for your position, you've nothing left but name calling and weak insults.
Your loss, son.
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12 Nov 15
Originally posted by wolfgang59If you define your 'god' to be indistinguishable from a non-existent 'god'...
Surely if you a define a god as holding all the "get out of science free" cards plus two jokers and all the Aces then ... that god does.
Trivial I agree but that seems to be the defence.
Then what you are talking about is neither existent, nor god.
Nobody actually believes in or worships such a god.
ALL gods proposed by actual religious believers [and not apologists trying to wiggle away from science]
are supposed [by definition] to have an effect on the world, to be distinguishable from non-existence.
They are thus ALL in the purview of science.
12 Nov 15
Originally posted by lemon limeProvide some examples then.
That's the sort of 'argument' I often see coming from FMF... claims to have not seen something and then suggests I'm making it up. But there's a huge problem when you make this kind of assertion, because you must either assume 1. no one else has seen what I've reported seeing or 2. everyone else shares your inability to remember and take note of repeating themes.
Originally posted by FMFNow that I think about it you both follow the same script, so I suppose there's no reason why I shouldn't respond to comments coming from both of you as though they weren't coming from the same person.
You said it's "the sort of 'argument' I often see coming from FMF". Do you have any examples?
Anyway, so now you're asking for my help in finding statements made by twhitehead and others because he's unable to remember discussions he was a part of? Okay, I'll go away now and spend all of my time searching for exact quotes....
HA HA HA HA HA HA!
13 Nov 15
Originally posted by lemon limeNo. I am asking you to substantiate what you have claimed about me ~ not twhitehead ~ that is all.
Anyway, so now you're asking for my help in finding statements made by twhitehead and others because he's unable to remember discussions he was a part of?
Originally posted by FMFAre you speaking on behalf of yourself now, or twhitehead? twhitehead responded to a post I had directed to DeepThought, and then you joined in because I commented on the similarity between twhitehead and you...
I would have thought, after what you said on page 24, that you would now be trying your level best not to seem like you are just making something up that you cannot then substantiate when called on it.
True or false?
When speaking directly to one particular person, I usually don't say the exact same thing I would say to everyone or just anyone. And I would not have directed that particular post to either you or twhitehead for reasons I'm fairly certain would not be obvious to either you or twhitehead. I was directing my comments to someone I'm fairly sure does (because he can) remember past discussions, and is intelligent enough to take note of reoccurring themes.
In other words, I wasn't initally speaking to either one of you... so butt out.
13 Nov 15
Originally posted by lemon limeAre you speaking on behalf of yourself now, or twhitehead? twhitehead responded to a post I had directed to DeepThought, and then you joined in because I commented on the similarity between twhitehead and you...
True or false?
When speaking directly to one particular person, I usually don't say the exact same thing I would say to everyone or just anyone. And I would not have directed that particular post to either you or twhitehead for reasons I'm fairly certain would not be obvious to either you or twhitehead. I was directing my comments to someone I'm fairly sure does (because he can) remember past discussions, and is intelligent enough to take note of reoccurring themes.
In other words, I wasn't initally speaking to either one of you... so butt out.
You made a specific claim about me. Regardless of whether you believe you have DeepThought's support over this, can you cite any examples of me using the sort of argument you claim I use?
13 Nov 15
Originally posted by FMFThe 'specific claim' about you was simply you claiming I was making something up. In fact, the way twhiteheaded worded that same claim is nearly identical to how you have worded it. Are you now claiming you have never suggested I was making something up?
[b]Are you speaking on behalf of yourself now, or twhitehead? twhitehead responded to a post I had directed to DeepThought, and then you joined in because I commented on the similarity between twhitehead and you...
True or false?
When speaking directly to one particular person, I usually don't say the exact same thing I would say to everyone or just anyone. ...[text shortened]... s support over this, can you cite any examples of me using the sort of argument you claim I use?
13 Nov 15
Originally posted by lemon limeRight here, right now, on this thread, you are behaving like you've made something up about me (on page 24) and, having been asked to substantiate your claim, you are waffling evasively.
The 'specific claim' about you was simply you claiming I was making something up. In fact, the way twhiteheaded worded that same claim is nearly identical to how you have worded it. Are you now claiming you have never suggested I was making something up?
Originally posted by lemon limeThis is a discussion and debate forum and everything you say ~ aside from stuff in PMs or in the in-game chat facility ~ is said in public.
When speaking directly to one particular person, I usually don't say the exact same thing I would say to everyone or just anyone.
13 Nov 15
Originally posted by LemonJelloOuch! I doubt FreakyKBH would want people reading that thread again! 😉
I doubt this counts as FreakyKBH's pinnacle of non-contribution through the use of Socratic method, though. This one was a real gem (much more where that came from too): Thread 55167