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Rape was only a crime if the woman was promised to another man at the time of the rape.
Under normal circumstances (sick people) a Hebrew man could rape any woman and then pay 50 shekels to her father and force her to marry him.
Look it up yourself, you flipping apologist.
You didn't spell out the verses as I think you should if giving evidence.
I evidenced that Paul, who studied under the renown rabbi Gamaliel, said in his letter -
fornication was:
1.) unholy
2.) unruly
3.) profane
4.) opposed to healthy teaching
5.) not according to the gospel with which HE was entrusted
6.) was an act of the "lawless".
7.) was an act of the ungodly and sinners
Something is seriously askew with your interpretation of the law of God and the heart of God.
You trying a snow job on us ?
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@proper-knob saidYou may need to post that a third time for sonship to acknowledge it.
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Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
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If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
This a provision ... SHOULD ... something happen.
This is a proscription for what to do ... PER CHANCE ... something should occur.
It is not a divine command to go RAPE.
It is a divine remedy for the misfortune of someone BEING raped. This is not "GO AND RAPE." Neither is it "Thus says the Lord, I CONDONE rape."
Similarly, are God's instructions IF ... divorce should occur is not God's instruction to "GO AND DIVORCE" (which is something He says He hates (Malachi 2:16) ).
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A culture and religion which endorses rape. And you worship that piece of crap ??
In my holy book that makes you a worse piece of crap.
C'mon apologist, say this is okay.
And you all get annoyed if I have to call someone "twisto-brain".
You're TWISTED with bigotry in your reading comprehension of the Holy Bible.
God making provision should RAPE occur is not God endorsing, sanctioning, or condoning RAPE.
You're anti God bigotry FOGS up you head woman.
Show me God pleased, condoning fornication or rape.
There is also difference between what the Bible records as having happened and what it TEACHES as a way of conduct.
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@proper-knob saidI'm curious if sonship would find that a satisfactory remedy in a modern context...
Forcing a young girl to marry her rapist is a 'remedy'? For whom? It's certainly not a remedy for the victim.
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My point is to note (or criticize) the people who believe that Moses was a real person
and evidently approve of everything that he and his followers did to their enemies.
God Himself did not approve of everything Moses did. So I am not blind to the fact of him being human.
God disciplined Moses and Aaron. Moses was not allowed to enter into the very promised land that he had obediently led the nation to. He was punished for not sanctifying God before the people but misrepresenting God via his outburst of anger.
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Forcing a young girl to marry her rapist is a 'remedy'? For whom? It's certainly not a remedy for the victim.
I'll look into your latter complaint.
I have heard though that in ancient times when two nations were at war, the women would purposely make themselves look beautiful and desirable IN CASE their people were defeated. Absorption into the conquering nation was an option to destitute existence perhaps leading to worse measures of survival.
The image of a beautiful captive woman having to shave her hair and put off her attractive apparel for a mandatory period of mourning was a good way to stop a soldier from following his sudden impulses without careful consideration.
After this period he had time to think about not following the initial eye catching attraction of the typical female form for serious reflexion of the responsibility of marriage.
In the meantime the law forbade that he "violate" her.
But I'll look into your "forced" marriage complaint within a day or so.