16 Mar 05
Originally posted by vistesdI'm was thinking 'Screwtape Letters' when I read that comment.
That’s interesting. Do you mean to say that if/when the devil exegetes/interprets the Bible, he is going to be sure that he does it correctly to prevent being challenged on that score?
Could you flesh that idea out a little more?
The message I got from that inspired text was that false piety (that is, piety
for the sake of being pious) is the greatest of sins. It echoes the passage in
the Bible with the Pharisee and the Publican.
The greatest danger for any believer of any faith is to assume that their
Sacred Text is a handbook with all the answers. Human faith, which is necessarily
imperfect because we have an imperfect understanding of the Divine, is always
going to be developing, always going to be a touch-and-go type of thing. In the
absence of omniscience, we cannot know what the right thing to do all the time is
and, as such, we are always going to be in sin (I sound like a Lutheran, here....),
but the process of repentance through sincere contrition ('Have mercy on me, a
sinner'😉 and striving to improve ('...from now on, avoid this sin'😉 is what true
faith is about.
Simply confessing to having a good faith is salvifically meaningless; from a Christian
standpoint, you are no different than a Pharisee.
Nemesio
16 Mar 05
Originally posted by vistesdFirst of if all served GOD through THE SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. There would be no problems in the world. There would be peace as there was in eternalty past. As there will be in eternalty to come.
[b] Nope, the devil uses the bible perfectly...
That’s interesting. Do you mean to say that if/when the devil exegetes/interprets the Bible, he is going to be sure that he does it correctly to prevent being challenged on that score?
Could you flesh that idea out a little more?
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You are so correct satan does know the BIBLE. In fact he understands it better than all unbelievers and many believers. This is why subjects, such as are these, that are here on this website and others, are for GOD bashing. The unbelievers made such as issue as not to hear or see the WORD OF GOD, that they have given it, its own thread.
What a mistake! Now those unbelievers who complained are here anyway.
Yes satan knows the WORD OF GOD, and he fears it. HE hates it. He knows that his time is comming, when he will stand in judgement. And be punished, and rightly so.
Keep insulting GOD. Keep making the Sacrifice of JESUS CHRIST a joke, which is the will of satan. And you will find yourself in that same judgement before that same GOD, that you donot believe in, or believe that does not exsist.
16 Mar 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101Good post.🙄
First of if all served GOD through THE SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. There would be no problems in the world. There would be peace as there was in eternalty past. As there will be in eternalty to come.
You are so correct satan does know the BIBLE. In fact he understands it better than all unbelievers and many believers. This is why subjects, such as are these, ...[text shortened]... me judgement before that same GOD, that you donot believe in, or believe that does not exsist.
16 Mar 05
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Originally posted by blindfaith101You know, BF, I think your first post on this thread was a considered one that is certainly not dismissible from a scriptural point of view. I intend to seriously study it further. I wish I had told you this earlier; my neglect.
First of if all served GOD through THE SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. There would be no problems in the world. There would be peace as there was in eternalty past. As there will be in eternalty to come.
You are so correct satan does know the B ...[text shortened]... GOD, that you donot believe in, or believe that does not exsist.
As for your accusations, if they are aimed at me, they are unwarranted, unfounded, defamatory and, frankly, degenerate. Others can speak for themselves.
16 Mar 05
Originally posted by vistesdTHE WORD OF GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT,need not me to speak to those issues, that you speak of. I judge noone,THE WORD OF GOD, is the judge. Therefore if I have offended you or anyone else, forgive me. But have you and others offended THE WORD OF GOD?
You know, BF, I think your first post on this thread was a considered one that is certainly not dismissible from a scriptural point of view. I intend to seriously study it further. I wish I had told you this earlier; my neglect.
As for your accusations, if they are aimed at me, they are unwarranted, unfounded, defamatory and, frankly, degenerate. Others can speak for themselves.
16 Mar 05
Originally posted by RagnorakYou definition does not even remotely describe a true Christian....your definition is the opposite of a true Christian....
To be a fundamentalist any-religion, you have to be a bigot as well. That goes without saying and should be taken as fact. The fundamentalist christians on here seem to view their bigotry as a plus point in the eyes of jesus.
From dictionary.com...
big·ot
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
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Jesus welcomed prostitutes, beggars, theives, adulterers, and all maner of folks to come to repentance.....keep studying, Rag, 'cause you'll get it one day....
😉
16 Mar 05
Originally posted by MaustrauserNo the biggest threat to world peace is Sin and Sin only. Man in his battles with himself destroys himself.
Because Fundamentalist Christians (along with fundamentalist Moslems / Jews / Hindus and other benighted people) are the biggest threat to world peace than anything else.
17 Mar 05
Originally posted by chancremechanicI guess there aren't many true christians out there then.
You definition does not even remotely describe a true Christian....your definition is the opposite of a true Christian....
Jesus welcomed prostitutes, beggars, theives, adulterers, and all maner of folks to come to repentance.....keep studying, Rag, 'cause you'll get it one day....
😉
I can't imagine a nice christian neighbourhood welcoming prostitutes, beggars, thieves, adulterers and all manner of folk (even illegal Mexicans Chancre?) into their lives.
Tell me that Darfius' and RBHill's and the other fundies on here aren't bigoted towards homosexuals. And other religions, including other christian religions, like Catholicism.
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17 Mar 05
Originally posted by Mayharmyes he does to his own deception. but as jesus v satan in 40 days and nights reminds us that without gods grace within us we are powerless, but with him nothing can stand.
Nope, the devil uses the bible perfectly...
It's his manipulation of a persons perceptions that make him the devil.
Which is how I always understood that story of how jesus met him in the desert, but hey...I'm not a xtian.
MÅ¥HÅRM
17 Mar 05
Originally posted by RagnorakI believe I've said several times that my best friend is homosexual. He simply does not act on his feelings like a true Christian should. How am I a bigot?
I guess there aren't many true christians out there then.
I can't imagine a nice christian neighbourhood welcoming prostitutes, beggars, thieves, adulterers and all manner of folk (even illegal Mexicans Chancre?) into their lives.
Tell me that Darfius' and RBHill's and the other fundies on here aren't bigoted towards homosexuals. And other religions, including other christian religions, like Catholicism.
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I would appreciate it if you didn't slander me without at least some evidence.
17 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusYou two must make the cutest couple in Bible Study. 😉
I believe I've said several times that my best friend is homosexual. He simply does not act on his feelings like a true Christian should.
Seriously, do you think he'll make it out alright? Straight, that is. It's great when you're straight, isn't it?