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What Does This Biblical Verse Mean?

What Does This Biblical Verse Mean?

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Kingdom of God first. Material things second.

Those with a lot of material things often have a hard time putting the Kingdom of God first.

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@divegeester said
It’s very simple:
1 John 2:15 (NIV)
“Do not love the world or anything in the world.”

Rich people are in love with their wealth rather than loving god.
Trying to turn biblical scripture into a left wing political banner is fraught with hypocrisy.
Well said

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@galveston75 said
Good stuff.

To add to that the bible does not say a rich person cannot do good in their worship and devotion to God. But it does say it would be hard. Riches has it's snares.
Jesus told a rich young ruler that he needed to go and sell all his belongings and give to the poor. But the man grew sad at Jesus’ saying and went off grieved, “for he was holding many possess ...[text shortened]... ld be treated like a hired worker, like a settler. He should serve with you until the Jubilee year."
Thank you

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@divegeester said
The other day you referred to something KellyJay said as being “perfect”, although you declined to confirm whether or not it was “perfect” enough to be included in one of your Watchtower broadcasts. I do wonder if your comment “good stuff” carried with it the same hollow ring.
You just can't help yourself can you? Always have to dig your little snippy quotes in there huh? It must be terrible to be you because it sure is terrible to see your usual empty post. And you are how old again? 13, 14?

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All of these numbered statements are wrong. Every one of them.

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@galveston75 said
You just can't help yourself can you? Always have to dig your little snippy quotes in there huh? It must be terrible to be you because it sure is terrible to see your usual empty post. And you are how old again? 13, 14?
I just don’t believe you when you say that KellyJay’s posts are “perfect” and “good stuff”. Not because of their content, but because I think you are being disingenuous with your compliments - I don’t believe that you think his post was “perfect” or “good stuff” at all, what I think is happening is you trying to demonstrate how eclectic you are in your openness to other people’s ideas when in fact you are a closed cultish mind who can only accept the teachings of the Watchtower as being “perfect” or “good stuff”. Now if I’ve got this wrong then just simply reply in the affirmative to my question:

Are the thoughts of KellyJay “perfect” enough to be included in your Watchtower magazine as teaching?

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@kellyjay said
Well said
Thanks I did try to make a straightforward reply to duchess64 as you can see.

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I looked at the link. There's nothing there that addresses the view that trying to turn biblical scripture into a left-wing political banner is fraught with hypocrisy. The material at the link just describes the political stance of some Christians; it doesn't deal with the claim that such a stance is "fraught with hypocrisy".

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Seriously D, why do you care? Do you believe the Bible should be the basis for government policy and laws?

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You are dodging. You haven't addressed divegeester's view that turning biblical scripture into a left-wing political banner is fraught with hypocrisy. As it happens, it is also my view that turning biblical scripture into a left-wing political banner is fraught with hypocrisy but that doesn't make me "right-wing" nor does it mean that I "loathe Christian socialism". Same goes for divegeester.

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And divegeester mentioned that he thinks such a stance is fraught with hypocrisy.

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If you have never encountered left-wing [or, for that matter, right-wing] Christian hypocrisy, that is a matter for you and not for divegeester. He has shared his perspective. There is no onus on him to justify it.

You have shared your perspective that he is a right-wing "troll" who "loathes Christian socialism" based on his misgivings about possible hypocrisy. There is no onus on you to justify it, nor to justify calling almost every poster you disagree with a "troll".

I'd say, on the Debates Forum, you have made countless tens of thousands of claims seemingly without feeling any burden to justify them beyond mere assertion or reiteration. And there is no onus on me to justify this perspective.

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I know him - and his beliefs and views - much better than you do. He does not "loathe Christian socialism".

He believes that turning biblical scripture into a left-wing political banner is fraught with hypocrisy.

Furthermore, he believes that turning biblical scripture into a right-wing political banner is fraught with hypocrisy too.

I have not "pretended" to think these things. And I am not "lying".

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