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Originally posted by @sonshipsome other renderings of First Cor. 6:17
The Person of the Holy Spirit can be received and JOIN a man to God to be [b]"one spirit". That means actually part of his being is united with God - mingled and blended with God.
This is tremendous.
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit." (1 Cor. 6:17)[/b]
Berean Study Bible
But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with Him in spirit.
Berean Literal Bible
But the one being joined to the Lord is one spirit.
New American Standard Bible
But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
King James Bible
But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But anyone joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
International Standard Version
But the person who unites himself with the Lord becomes one spirit with him.
NET Bible
But the one united with the Lord is one spirit with him.
New Heart English Bible
But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But whoever cleaves to our Lord becomes one spirit with him.
29 Jan 18
Originally posted by @sonshipGive us some other renderings of what Paul earlier in the same chapter :
some other renderings of [b]First Cor. 6:17
Berean Study Bible[/b]
But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with Him in spirit.
Berean Literal Bible
But the one being joined to the Lord is one spirit.
New American Standard Bible
But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
King ...[text shortened]... e in Plain English
But whoever cleaves to our Lord becomes one spirit with him.
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV)
Sinners will be separated from God.
The ones joined to God live righteous lives.
29 Jan 18
Originally posted by @sonshipGod speaks to me alright. He tells me to obey the commandments of Christ.God speaks to all Christians, and Christians have a multitude of doctrines.
Can you explain that?
You assuming that only on informational points will God speak. "This doctrine is right. That doctrine is wrong."
His speaking may be more often along the line of how you express Jesus in your life.
This is what Paul labors to he ...[text shortened]... latter you will listen and obey of you are a saved person.
Why not sooner rather than latter?
Apparently someone is speaking to you [certainly not God], and is telling you that mouth worship is the way to the Kingdom of God.
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Originally posted by @rajk999Don't you ever get tired of trying to make a false dichotomy ? - Ie.
God speaks to me alright. He tells me to obey the commandments of Christ.
Apparently someone is speaking to you [certainly not God], and is telling you that mouth worship is the way to the Kingdom of God.
To speak necessarily is to not obey.
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In exploring WHAT the Holy Spirit is, might be a bit different from my ready answers about WHO the Holy Spirit is.
He is not just a force or energy as Galveston would teach. But WHAT is He ?
This is a difficult question to answer. I regard "holy" as in Holy Spirit to include the meaning that He is absolutely unique and there is NOTHING else in existence just like Him.
God ALONE is intrinsically Holy.
" ... for You alone are holy ..." (Rev. 15:4)
You cannot say "Explain what God is and give two examples."
Now to be fair, the Bible says that some things dedicated to God or set apart for God are also holy. But intrinsically God ALONE is holy. Absolutely unique. Absolutely sacred in uniqueness.
These are my first thoughts in discussion WHAT the Holy Spirit is.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterWonderful One.
I notice you chose not to bold and include "One" in your "Wonderful" ... One.
Wonderful One.
The word "one" is not in Isaiah 9:6. That was in my prose and reference TO Isaiah 9:6.
30 Jan 18
One thing I've noticed with ones like our friend here is that it seems they like this "mystery" aspect of what they feel the holy spirit is which is also the trinity. I have a couple cousins that are ministers and the more I discuss this with them is the "more mysterious" it gets. I also know this is just a cop out because they can't explain it.
I also feel this is somewhat of a power play thing they are trying to get over on many just as the so called spiritual leaders in the dark ages could hold over their subjects. These mysterious teachings could never be understood by the uneducated.
Originally posted by @sonshipGot a question for you..... When you pray, who are you praying too? Is it all three parts of this godhead or two of them or only one?
My experience is that when God speaks to me it is ALWAYS based upon what He has said in the Bible.
If I come to you saying God spoke this or that to sonship and it flatly contradicts the word of God in the Bible, don't believe me.
God certainly speaks to the believer in Jesus Christ.
It is nothing to boast about if you have believed in Jesus and say ...[text shortened]... plaint.
Accompany such with thanksgiving and praise. You will get your answer in most cases.
Just a simple answer would do if you can.....
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Originally posted by @galveston75Usually I pray to my Lord Jesus.
I also pray to Father, Abba Father.
I have many intimate terms of love by which I address my beloved God.
Why do you ask?
30 Jan 18
Originally posted by @sonshipWhich incidentally is a scripture which completely contradicts the notion of a three person God.
The word "one" is not in Isaiah 9:6. That was in my prose and reference TO Isaiah 9:6
30 Jan 18
Originally posted by @sonshipJesus said to pray to God, His Father.
Usually I pray to my Lord Jesus.
I also pray to Father, Abba Father.
I have many intimate terms of love by which I address my beloved God.
Why do you ask?
Jesus's role is intercession or a go-between man and God.
More proof that Jesus is saying clearly that He is NOT GOD
As usual you are wrong, and I know you dont give a damn, because you have a multitude of reasons why you pray to Jesus... none of which many sense, neither are they biblical.
31 Jan 18
Originally posted by @sonshipI think that is interesting.
Usually I pray to my Lord Jesus.
I also pray to Father, Abba Father.
I have many intimate terms of love by which I address my beloved God.
Why do you ask?
I never make a distinction. When I say "Our Father who art in Heaven" or "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Only Living God," etc., I identify them as one and the same and I am not making mental distinctions.
That's interesting that you do that. I will not be a jerk and say it is wrong. I would be interested in hearing more about htis.