Spirituality
19 Sep 17
Originally posted by @finneganI like We are Seven.
That begs the question again. It is not making progress.
If the answer to all questions is a quote from scripture, then no conversation is taking place - only the semblance of one, for which a coin slot machine would suffice. As Hero of Alexandria demonstrated in ancient times, a coin slot operated automaton would be far more economical than using up ...[text shortened]... th briars, my joys & desires.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45950/the-garden-of-love
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou don't know god.
Well not only atheists are excluded, even believers are.
1 John 4:20
If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
Originally posted by @avalanchethecatObviously from your perspective where God doesn't exist it is impossible for anyone to know God. The question is how do you know that God doesn't exist?
You don't know god.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThe same way that you "know" the FSM doesn't exist.
Obviously from your perspective where God doesn't exist it is impossible for anyone to know God. The question is how do you know that God doesn't exist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Originally posted by @wolfgang59Huh? So if you know that FSM doesn't exist you automatically should know that God doesn't exist?
The same way that you "know" the FSM doesn't exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Maybe you should read up on a strawman argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Originally posted by @dj2beckerMaybe you should look up (and read) about a Strawman Argument.
Huh? So if you know that FSM doesn't exist you automatically should know that God doesn't exist?
Maybe you should read up on a strawman argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
I am using analogy.
And once again you have not answered the question.
From your perspective where the FSM doesn't exist is it impossible for anyone to know the FSM. The question is how do you know that the FSM doesn't exist?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI think you need to read that yourself, as clearly you understanding of a strawman argument is suspect.
Huh? So if you know that FSM doesn't exist you automatically should know that God doesn't exist?
Maybe you should read up on a strawman argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
To respond to the question 'how do you know that God doesn't exist?' but mirroring 'how do you know that the FSM doesn't exist' is not a strawman argument. It's perfectly valid.
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo two things can be distinct without a difference?
Not all believers know God so that becomes a distinction without a difference.
What dictionary are you using?
Originally posted by @wolfgang59When did I make the claim that FSM doesn't exist? You have made that claim that God doesn't exist. When asked how you know that to be true, the best response is because FSM doesn't exist? 🙄
Maybe [b]you should look up (and read) about a Strawman Argument.
I am using analogy.
And once again you have not answered the question.
From your perspective where the FSM doesn't exist is it impossible for anyone to know the FSM. The question is how do you know that the FSM doesn't exist?[/b]
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI made no claim about FSM. Wolfie on the other hand has made some claims about Gods non existence.
I think you need to read that yourself, as clearly you understanding of a strawman argument is suspect.
To respond to the question 'how do you know that God doesn't exist?' but mirroring 'how do you know that the FSM doesn't exist' is not a strawman argument. It's perfectly valid.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou are a liar. (Again)
When did I make the claim that FSM doesn't exist? You have made that claim that God doesn't exist. When asked how you know that to be true, the best response is because FSM doesn't exist? 🙄
I never stated that you claimed the FSM does not exist.
I have not claimed that god does not exist.
Also I have not claimed that the FSM exists or the Easter Bunny.
What I am saying is that the evidence for your god
and the FSM are similar and deserve similar evidence.
24 Sep 17
Originally posted by @eladarWordsworth? Yes, it is a thoughtful and pleasing poem. It reflects his very conservative and conventionally religious attitudes, both of which might well appeal to you when you are not waging nuclear war or planning the destruction of Islam.
I like We are Seven.
24 Sep 17
Originally posted by @wolfgang59When did I say that you stated I made claims about FSM?
You are a liar. (Again)
I never stated that you claimed the FSM does not exist.
I have not claimed that god does not exist.
Also I have not claimed that the FSM exists or the Easter Bunny.
What I am saying is that the evidence for your god
and the FSM are similar and deserve similar evidence.
Are you suddenly not an atheist?
Back to the strawman it is.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIs that the strawman you didn't understand?
When did I say that you stated I made claims about FSM?
Are you suddenly not an atheist?
Back to the strawman it is.