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Originally posted by telerionIt all depends on your view of the world. I could argue that science clashes with many religions - including the one with Jesus. But I could also argue that if religion clashes drastically with what is "proven" or what makes more sense to me then religion is wrong.
Excuse me. Religion does not clash with science. Science clashes with Jesus.
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Originally posted by Bad wolfSome interesting quotes;
It all depends on your view of the world. I could argue that science clashes with many religions - including the one with Jesus. But I could also argue that if religion clashes drastically with what is "proven" or what makes more sense to me then religion is wrong.
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." (Albert Einstein) "
"Science and religion are two windows that people look through,
trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand
why we are here. The two windows give different views, but both look
out at the same universe. Both views are one-sided, neither is
complete. Both leave out essential features of the real world. And
both are worthy of respect." ( Physicist Freeman Dyson)
11 Dec 05
Originally posted by Bad wolfNothing depends. Either, like me, you will live eternally with Jesus, or you will burn in Hell with your "Science" forever and ever and ever Amen, which is all you really deserve for loving darkness and boobies so much.
It all depends on your view of the world. I could argue that science clashes with many religions - including the one with Jesus. But I could also argue that if religion clashes drastically with what is "proven" or what makes more sense to me then religion is wrong.
11 Dec 05
Originally posted by Silver SlayerFor those who are interested in the relationship between Faith and Reason, they can read "Fides et Ratio", "Faith and Reason", an Encyclical written by John Paul II.
Some interesting quotes;
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." (Albert Einstein) "
"Science and religion are two windows that people look through,
trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand
why we are here. The two windows give different views, but both look
out at the same uni ...[text shortened]... d. And
both are worthy of respect." ( Physicist Freeman Dyson)
http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0216/_INDEX.HTM
11 Dec 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeI read a hefty portion of it once. I remember it was very long, and very much of the following form:
For those who are interested in the relationship between Faith and Reason, they can read "Fides et Ratio", "Faith and Reason", an Encyclical written by John Paul II.
http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0216/_INDEX.HTM
Faith and Reason are not incompatible . . .
Faith and Reason are not incompatible . . .
They go together . . .
They are not incompatible . . .
Some say they conflict, but they do not . . .
Unfortunately, JP2 must not have learned that you need to flesh out an argument with more than poetry.
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11 Dec 05
Originally posted by telerionI am kind, honest, I respect other's beliefs, I believe the world is based on rules that are explained through science. If your God sends these types of people to hell just for not believing in Jesus then I want no part of Christainity.
Nothing depends. Either, like me, you will live eternally with Jesus, or you will burn in Hell with your "Science" forever and ever and ever Amen, which is all you really deserve for loving darkness and boobies so much.
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Originally posted by Bad wolfDo not blame God because you like darkness and boobies so much.
I am kind, honest, I respect other's beliefs, I believe the world is based on rules that are explained through science. If your God sends these types of people to hell just for not believing in Jesus then I want no part of Christainity.
11 Dec 05
Originally posted by telerionHere is another quote for you. It's from Fyodor Dostoyevsky, i don't have a clue who he is but the quote should appeal to tree huggers and sane people!;
Do not blame God because you like darkness and boobies so much.
Love the animals, love the plants, love everything. If you love everything, you will perceive the divine mystery in things. Once you perceive it, you will begin to comprehend it better every day. And you will come at last to love the whole world with an all-embracing love.
11 Dec 05
Originally posted by Silver SlayerHmmm... On the topic of love - I think 1 Corinthians 13 has some profound words.
Here is another quote for you. It's from Fyodor Dostoyevsky, i don't have a clue who he is but the quote should appeal to tree huggers and sane people!;
Love the animals, love the plants, love everything. If you love everything, you will perceive the divine mystery in things. Once you perceive it, you will begin to comprehend it better every day. And you will come at last to love the whole world with an all-embracing love.
11 Dec 05
Originally posted by telerionIf I understand you correctly, and I like to think I do...how do you reconcile the fact that GOD himself gave me this desire for darkness and boobies, much less that fact that HE created the BOOBIES and the DARKNESS in the first place? Is it all Adam's fault or Satan's work?
Do not blame God because you like darkness and boobies so much.
11 Dec 05
Originally posted by David CGod gave you a desire for shade and a mother's milk. You have perverted it with your wicked nature.
If I understand you correctly, and I like to think I do...how do you reconcile the fact that GOD himself gave me this desire for darkness and boobies, much less that fact that HE created the BOOBIES and the DARKNESS in the first place? Is it all Adam's fault or Satan's work?
As for why God made darkness and boobies a possibility in the first place, it is probably because he likes darkness and boobies too. He just doesn't like when you like darkness and boobies.