23 Nov 11
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Originally posted by FMFOkay, I guess I will just have to accept that my English language skills are
I know what you mean and I appreciate your effort to make light of your own missteps on this matter. However, the issue here is that you are attempting to use a word - "indoctrinate" - which has certain conventional connotations - in a way that could apply to virtually everything that anyone ever says, every or any day, about anything, since whenever, in referen aroly's chain. And, as you can see, karoly's chain has been yanked. As has yours it seems.
not up to par.
23 Nov 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsJust so you know, I personally think that 'teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically' - and the power relationship (whether it be overt or subtle or even unconscious) implied by that action of "teaching" - is a pretty good way to approach the word "indoctrinate" for it gets to the heart of its conventional meaning. The relationship between karoly and Rajk999 is clearly not one of someone being a teacher and someone being taught, far from it. Nor does karoly ask Rajk999 to be uncritical - indeed, the very fact that all this has arisen in the context of debate clearly demonstrates that this is essentially a case of people consciously 'being critical' about each others expressed opinions.
Okay, I guess I will just have to accept that mu English language skills are
not up to par.
23 Nov 11
Originally posted by ChessPraxisSo the "christians" that I have met that claimed to be "born again" "all of a sudden", (most of them saying that it happened almost instantaneously (wow,I can t believe I spelled that word right-spelling bee-here I come!! Charlie's going to cream all you little eighth graders 😀), but I digress), are you saying that they were all full of it? Or what?
IMO being born again is a day to day process.
(I would be VERY interested in the answer to this one, so pleased dont ignore t- not saying that you would, but Im just sayin' ....I'm interested,Ta 🙂
23 Nov 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelI think he is referring to "spiritual growth" not "spiritual birth".
So the "christians" that I have met that claimed to be "born again" "all of a sudden", (most of them saying that it happened almost instantaneously (wow,I can t believe I spelled that word right-spelling bee-here I come!! Charlie's going to cream all you little eighth graders 😀), but I digress), are you saying that they were all full of it? Or what? ...[text shortened]... d dont ignore t- not saying that you would, but Im just sayin' ....I'm interested,Ta 🙂
23 Nov 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelBack up to page 12 🙂 I answered it in part.
So the "christians" that I have met that claimed to be "born again" "all of a sudden", (most of them saying that it happened almost instantaneously (wow,I can t believe I spelled that word right-spelling bee-here I come!! Charlie's going to cream all you little eighth graders 😀), but I digress), are you saying that they were all full of it? Or what? ...[text shortened]... d dont ignore t- not saying that you would, but Im just sayin' ....I'm interested,Ta 🙂
I would not say someone is full of malarky if they converted instantly, it certainly happens. Take Paul for example.
http://history-world.org/paul.htm
My experience, for me, it's more of a process.
23 Nov 11
Originally posted by ChessPraxisYou never had an "ah-ha" moment spirtually speaking?
Back up to page 12 🙂 I answered it in part.
I would not say someone is full of malarky if they converted instantly, it certainly happens. Take Paul for example.
http://history-world.org/paul.htm
My experience, for me, it's more of a process.
23 Nov 11
Originally posted by RJHindsI am not trying to indoctrinate my kids. I give them information when they are ready for it. when are they ready for it? When they ask.
My post was on page 7 of this thread in which I was referring to you and
robbie indoctrinating your kids. The fact that you have or have not tried
to indoctrinate anyone on this forum has nothing to do with that. But
someone on this thread believed you were trying to indoctrinate him. I
still think you will be trying to indoctrinate your kids.
And if I dont know, then I tell them.