Who Owns Truth Anyway ?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not trying not prove anything.

You are not trying to prove anything. And you are not asking him to prove anything. And you are unable to state what you believe about the supposed inspiration of the Bible. What weird corner is this you have backed yourself into?

Originally posted by FMF
The 'position of neutrality' with regard to texts that no one disputes were written by men is that they were not divinely inspired until someone who believes they were demonstrates it to be so.

well that's for those that are trying to prove inspiration to attend to.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes but being magical and outlandish does not necessitate that its uninspired, does it.

It seems far more likely to be satanic in origin than divine, but I don't buy into that either. I guess I just don't share your gullibility.

Originally posted by FMF
You are not trying to prove anything. And you are not asking him to prove anything. And you are unable to state what you believe about the supposed inspiration of the Bible. What weird corner is this you have backed yourself into?

I am asking him for his opinion. This is the second or third time I have stated as much. Why must you regurgitate the same stuff over and over again?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am asking him for his opinion.

He has already told you. His opinion is pretty much the same as mine which is that the claim the Bible is inspired is outlandish and there is no evidence aside from what the text says about itself.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well that's for those that are trying to prove inspiration to attend to.

Do you believe that those who have sought to prove the Bible is divinely inspired have succeeded?

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
It seems far more likely to be satanic in origin than divine, but I don't buy into that either. I guess I just don't share your gullibility.

again this is not a very strong argument for lack of inspiration and infact its hardly even relevant except tenuously so. If we reduce it to absurdity then we get the proposition that its uninspired because we are cynical. 😕

Originally posted by FMF
Do you believe that those who have sought to prove the Bible is divinely inspired have succeeded?

I haven't read their texts and can offer no comment. Kellyjay I do not read and jaywill is not a little verbose.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie to avalanchethecat
this is not a very strong argument for lack of inspiration

What is your very strongest argument for divine inspiration? If you don't want to say you believe the Bible is divinely inspired, what do you think is the very strongest argument for divine inspiration made by proponents of the idea?

Originally posted by FMF
What is your very strongest argument for divine inspiration? If you don't want to say you believe the Bible is divinely inspired, what do you think is the very strongest argument for divine inspiration made by proponents of the idea?

I am not arguing for divine inspiration, not this time anyway. I don't want to be drawn into one either.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
again this is not a very strong argument for lack of inspiration and infact its hardly even relevant except tenuously so. If we reduce it to absurdity then we get the proposition that its uninspired because we are cynical. 😕

To lack cynicism when confronted with magical and outlandish claims seems foolish to me. If you prefer to view the world otherwise, I wish you good luck with that.

FMF: Do you believe that those who have sought to prove the Bible is divinely inspired have succeeded?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I haven't read their texts and can offer no comment. Kelly jay i do not read and jaywill is not a little verbose.

Do you believe that those beyond this forum, to whom you have talked and/or whose writings you have read, and who have sought to prove the Bible is divinely inspired, have succeeded?

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
To lack cynicism when confronted with magical and outlandish claims seems foolish to me. If you prefer to view the world otherwise, I wish you good luck with that.

Yes I must admit that I am not very cynical.

Originally posted by FMF
Do you believe that those beyond this forum, to whom you have talked and/or whose writings you have read, and who have sought to prove the Bible is divinely inspired, have succeeded?

More so than those who have sought to prove claims of lack of inspiration, yes. I found your whole Revelation was written for political purposes absolutely absurd if I am brutally honest.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not arguing for divine inspiration, not this time anyway. I don't want to be drawn into one either.

As I said, it's a weird corner you have painted yourself into. You aren't trying to prove anything. And you aren't asking him to prove anything. And you refuse to state what you believe about the supposed inspiration of the Bible or even what you think the best arguments are that it is.