31 Jan 18
LOL, dude, why don't you just talk about positions on things!
I put things out there and you can agree with it, or idsagree with it, or say you are neutral, or do whatever you want. I say things hoping to have a conversation in a forum.
I am not here to exclusively interact with you and if I say something that isn't specifically applicable to you I am not necessarily strawmanning you.
Why can't you drop this? What don't you understand?
31 Jan 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervillePerhaps you should not use Reply & Quote then if you're just talking past people.
I am not here to exclusively interact with you and if I say something that isn't specifically applicable to you I am not necessarily strawmanning you.
31 Jan 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleIf you don't really believe in freedom, per se, and you don't really believe in human rights, per se, how do you think a post-colonial, post-military dictatorship developing country like the one I live in should move forward and promote social justice in the wake of what it has been through and in the face of the huge challenges that exist? I don't understand how your Alex Jones-esque polemic stuff matches up with the real world.
What don't you understand?
31 Jan 18
(1) I like to give long, fun answers. Sometimes that involves talking about things not necessarily super specifically pertinent. This is the last time I'll acknowledge something like "why are you mentioning X or Y?!" unless I think your question is valid. I'm just not going to bother with this anymore.
(2) I'll give you an extensive answer on that question. It deserves its own thread, honestly, and perahsp that's what I'll do.
31 Jan 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleYes, either you should not use Reply & Quote if you're just regurgitating some polemic from an 'excellent' essay you read somewhere - regardless of what you are purporting to be replying to - or just don't bother at all.
I like to give long, fun answers. Sometimes that involves talking about things not necessarily super specifically pertinent. This is the last time I'll acknowledge something like "why are you mentioning X or Y?!" unless I think your question is valid. I'm just not going to bother with this anymore.
31 Jan 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleDone.
I'll give you an extensive answer on that question. It deserves its own thread, honestly, and perahsp that's what I'll do.
Originally posted by @fmfBump (then) for Jacob-Verville. Maybe you will elect to answer the question here after all.
If you don't really believe in freedom, per se, and you don't really believe in human rights, per se, how do you think a post-colonial, post-military dictatorship developing country like the one I live in should move forward and promote social justice in the wake of what it has been through and in the face of the huge challenges that exist? I don't understand how your Alex Jones-esque polemic stuff matches up with the real world.
02 Feb 18
Originally posted by @suzianneI just got around to viewing this amazing video, very bright girl whether you like her or not.
Ok, this video is self-serving in a way. No, hear me out.
It assumes that ALL religion is this way. It is not. Or at least it SHOULD not be.
I've talked in this forum about why Christians should not hold most of these views. Yes, I am a political liberal. I happen to agree with 90% of this video. The atheist doesn't get that no, it doesn't have ...[text shortened]... ccept it all, or reject it all, they assume it is ALL insignificant. And that is just not true.
The thing about religion that gets atheists is this (among other things of course): Two religions, each one claiming to be THE religion of god, start fighting each other. You say that is only MEN fighting MEN. What about the part where for thousands of years all the religious based carnage goes on and ZERO from the alleged god? If it is only men why is there no response from THE god in charge? You would think it would want to make a correction and tell people what is what, not allowing dozens of religion each one at the throats of the rest, Hindu's fighting Muslims, Muslims fighting Christians.
So why is there ZERO response from THE god in charge?
If a teacher sees three or four kids fighting, she comes up and yanks the combatants apart and stops the fight. Why does that not happen with THE god?
03 Feb 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleHere it is again. You can post your answer here or on the thread I started as prompted by you.
I'll give you an extensive answer on that question. It deserves its own thread, honestly, and perahsp that's what I'll do.
If you don't really believe in freedom, per se, and you don't really believe in human rights, per se, how do you think a post-colonial, post-military dictatorship developing country like the one I live in should move forward and promote social justice in the wake of what it has been through and in the face of the huge challenges that exist? I don't understand how your Alex Jones-esque polemic stuff matches up with the real world.
03 Feb 18
Originally posted by @sonhouseMy god is better than your god and I'm going to kick your ass to prove it.
I just got around to viewing this amazing video, very bright girl whether you like her or not.
The thing about religion that gets atheists is this (among other things of course): Two religions, each one claiming to be THE religion of god, start fighting each other. You say that is only MEN fighting MEN. What about the part where for thousands of years ...[text shortened]... es up and yanks the combatants apart and stops the fight. Why does that not happen with THE god?
04 Feb 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneBully for you. I don't 'have' a god, I don't need one, don't want one, wish it would go away and leave us the hell alone. Assuming there is one at all, which I doubt with extreme prejudice.
My god is better than your god and I'm going to kick your ass to prove it.
04 Feb 18
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Originally posted by @sonhouseC'mon sonhouse.
Bully for you. I don't 'have' a god, I don't need one, don't want one, wish it would go away and leave us the hell alone. Assuming there is one at all, which I doubt with extreme prejudice.
It was meant as a depiction of the laughably absurd mindset held by those you depicted in your post.
09 Feb 18
Originally posted by @sonhouseSo would you suddenly believe in a religion if God himself TOLD you to? Maybe yea, maybe nay, but God does not want puppets. God wants those who make a FREE WILL choice for him. It's easy to say you believe in a god who physically holds you over the abyss threatening to throw you in. Harder to believe in one who is more subtle and preaches love, even for those who refuse him. However, Judgement still awaits. And your future is squarely ON YOU to decide.
I just got around to viewing this amazing video, very bright girl whether you like her or not.
The thing about religion that gets atheists is this (among other things of course): Two religions, each one claiming to be THE religion of god, start fighting each other. You say that is only MEN fighting MEN. What about the part where for thousands of years ...[text shortened]... es up and yanks the combatants apart and stops the fight. Why does that not happen with THE god?
Originally posted by @suzianne to sonhouseDidn't you say that you turned to your god figure because he sent angels to you who then spoke to you?
So would you suddenly believe in a religion if God himself TOLD you to? [...] God wants those who make a FREE WILL choice for him. It's easy to say you believe in a god who physically holds you over the abyss threatening to throw you in. Harder to believe in one who is more subtle and preaches love, even for those who refuse him.