Why God Rejects Me

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
In your opinion, what is the purpose or goal of sex?

From the perspective of whom?

Originally posted by googlefudge
From the perspective of whom?

REJECT!

Originally posted by googlefudge
From the perspective of whom?

The participants.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
In your opinion, what is the purpose or goal of sex?

Pleasure and/or procreation.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Pleasure and/or procreation.

Which of the two do you consider most primary, in terms of drive... or did you already list them thusly?

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Which of the two do you consider most primary, in terms of drive... or did you already list them thusly?

In terms of drive? Pleasure.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Which of the two do you consider most primary, in terms of drive... or did you already list them thusly?

Depends on the participants.

Strictly statistically I would suspect sex is had for pleasure more often than
for procreation.

Although a lack of care in doing so leads to a certain number of 'oops' pregnancies.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Pleasure and/or procreation.

Also helps with bonding and relationship building/cementing...

For a given kind of relationship.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
In terms of drive? Pleasure.

Since you and GF are in agreement--- and keeping within the confines of the posting rules herein--- what is it that makes it pleasurable, and what makes this pleasure highly valued?

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Since you and GF are in agreement--- and keeping within the confines of the posting rules herein--- what is it that makes it pleasurable, and what makes this pleasure highly valued?

Dopamine...


It's pleasurable because evolution made it that way.

Creatures that don't have a drive to do things that promote the
continuation of the species don't continue the species and thus
die out.

This is why you get a brain reward when you eat food, and a particularly
big one when you score high energy food... It's evolution building in
a reward system for doing something that promotes your survival.

And the biggest thing in creating the next species is finding a mate and
having sex... Which is why evolution has programmed in a really BIG reward
for achieving that.



And pleasure is valued because we are wired to like/desire/try to achieve pleasure.

It's a better experience than ~pleasure.



Now of course there is a great deal of extra detail and complications....

But the answers to your questions are basically Biology and Chemistry...

It's Dopamine.


EDIT: And if you need to ask this then you evidently need to get out more..

😛

Originally posted by googlefudge
Dopamine...


It's pleasurable because evolution made it that way.

Creatures that don't have a drive to do things that promote the
continuation of the species don't continue the species and thus
die out.

This is why you get a brain reward when you eat food, and a particularly
big one when you score high energy food... It's evolution buildi ...[text shortened]... Dopamine.


EDIT: And if you need to ask this then you evidently need to get out more..

😛

Your logic's a bit fuzzy, but it kinda sounds like you're making a case for Ritalin.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Since you and GF are in agreement--- and keeping within the confines of the posting rules herein--- what is it that makes it pleasurable, and what makes this pleasure highly valued?

The pleasure is from physical stimulation, and we intrinsically value pleasure.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Your logic's a bit fuzzy, but it kinda sounds like you're making a case for Ritalin.

You have succinctly shown your ignorance of logic, sex and Ritalin. Well done!

Originally posted by wolfgang59
You have succinctly shown your ignorance of logic, sex and Ritalin. Well done!

...logic, sex and Ritalin.
• I question the validity of GF's reasoningReveal Hidden Content and somehow that reveals my deficiency in understanding logic?
Not sure how you arrive at your conclusion.

• I ask for two people's perspective on sex, and (in your mind) this equates to my ignorance and/or lack of personal perspective on the topic?
After fathering six kids, I think I have a pretty good grasp on the basic fundamentals, however there might exist some latent gap in my overall understanding of sex.
Not sure how you were able to mine such insight from two simple questions intended to discover someone else's perspective, but I guess you're just that good, huh.

• Methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta, Methylin, Equasym XL) is a (US) Schedule II synthetic stimulant drug which has been primarily prescribed for its positive benefits in treating ADHD (attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder), since the drug increases dopamine to the brain.
If, as GF states, it is all about dopamine, why bother with any formalities or risk of disease and/or heartache?
Why not just prescribe euphoria-inducing amounts of Ritalin for the general populace?

Originally posted by SwissGambit
The pleasure is from physical stimulation, and we intrinsically value pleasure.

Agreed: pleasure is good.
I like it at least as much as the next guy/gal, but prolly more.

Gordon Gecko intoned how "greed... is good"Reveal Hidden Content and offered a vague one-sided thumbnail support for it.

Without going into the mechanics of it, here's an open-ended question: why is pleasure a good thing?
Meaning, no matter what the source, why was pleasure used as the carrot instead of, for instance, lack of pain?