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@pb1022 saidOh dear, emulating sonship's tactic of claiming victory when a poster logs out the site. I guess you have to take victories where you find them.
Wow. I asked Ghosty who witnessed the parting of the Red Sea and apparently stumped him. He made a snark post and then disappeared.
‘Ol PB wins again 🎉 🎊
So to clarify, the pharaoh and his entire army being destroyed in the Red Sea went unnoticed and unrecorded?
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08 Feb 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidOh it went recorded. It’s right there in Exodus.
Oh dear, emulating sonship's tactic of claiming victory when a poster logs out the site. I guess you have to take victories where you find them.
So to clarify, the pharaoh and his entire army being destroyed in the Red Sea went unnoticed and unrecorded?
But why aren’t you answering my question? Who witnessed the parting of the Red Sea?
Do you think at the time Exodus was written, it was part of the Holy Bible?
Was the information in Exodus more trustworthy before it was included in the Torah and subsequently the Old Testament?
And I don’t take you at your word that there is no evidence of the Exodus outside the Bible, nor would I advise anyone to take you at your word about anything.
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08 Feb 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou may be able to beat PB1002 (whoever that is,) but you’ll never beat PB1022 - never have and never will.
Wow no reply from PB1002. I claim victory.
Keep debating me and pretty soon I’ll have you carrying little notebooks in your pockets like dive and writing “Haha!” In them whenever you’re angry and frustrated.
08 Feb 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIt also didn’t take place in front of CNN cameras either.
Because Israelite history didn't take place in a vacuum.
08 Feb 22
@pb1022 saidIt doesn’t matter they were people of God, that doesn’t stop start due to today’s obedience and yesterday’s sins.
<<because of the evil those following God do.>>
Not to quibble but to clarify - they weren’t following God when they did evil.
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08 Feb 22
@pb1022 saidSo the Bible creates its own history and is self-validating, even if unsupported by external evidence?
Oh it went recorded. It’s right there in Exodus.
But why aren’t you answering my question? Who witnessed the parting of the Red Sea?
Do you think at the time Exodus was written, it was part of the Holy Bible?
Was the information in Exodus more trustworthy before it was included in the Torah and subsequently the Old Testament?
And I don’t take you at your word that ...[text shortened]... of the Exodus outside the Bible, nor would I advise anyone to take you at your word about anything.
And when I referenced the parting of the Red Sea it was in relation to the supposed wiping out of The Egyptian army, not the validating of a clearly fictitious miracle. And why ignore the main point? Why is there no evidence of the slavery itself? Surely the sudden loss of all those slaves in Egypt would have had some kind of traceable impact, don't you think?
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidExodus, when Moses wrote it, wasn’t part of the Holy Bible. Was it a more reliable historical document before it was included in the Bible?
So the Bible creates its own history and is self-validating, even if unsupported by external evidence?
And when I referenced the parting of the Red Sea it was in relation to the supposed wiping out of The Egyptian army, not the validating of a clearly fictitious miracle. And why ignore the main point? Why is there no evidence of the slavery itself? Surely the sudden loss of all those slaves in Egypt would have had some kind of traceable impact, don't you think?
And the miracle can (also) be explained by naturalistic means. You oughta check that out.
And I get your point, but am not sure the number of chariots chasing the Israelis constituted the entire Egyptian army. But even if it did, you’re talking about an event that happened more than 3,000 years ago.
Do you know how many sources exist for similarly-significant events from 3,000+ years ago?
08 Feb 22
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIt’s historical the Bible didn’t just show up centuries after the fact.
So the Bible creates its own history and is self-validating, even if unsupported by external evidence?
And when I referenced the parting of the Red Sea it was in relation to the supposed wiping out of The Egyptian army, not the validating of a clearly fictitious miracle. And why ignore the main point? Why is there no evidence of the slavery itself? Surely the sudden loss of all those slaves in Egypt would have had some kind of traceable impact, don't you think?
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@pb1022 saidTime does degrade the validity of evidence, that's true. Hence there being none for the Ressurection. (You know, the event that happened 2,000 years ago).
Exodus, when Moses wrote it, wasn’t part of the Holy Bible. Was it a more reliable historical document before it was included in the Bible?
And the miracle can (also) be explained by naturalistic means. You oughta check that out.
And I get your point, but am not sure the number of chariots chasing the Israelis constituted the entire Egyptian army. But even if it did, you ...[text shortened]... s ago.
Do you know how many sources exist for similarly-significant events from 3,000+ years ago?
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08 Feb 22
@kellyjay saidNever mind Kelly.
It’s historical the Bible didn’t just show up centuries after the fact.
08 Feb 22
@pb1022 saidNo people doing evil is because it is people doing evil. God didn’t tell David to have Uriah murdered so David could have his wife. The context and consequences are always important I agree. When someone skims through scripture by say just doing word searches that is not studying the Bible, it requires reading to take it all in context.
I think the clarification is important. Otherwise the implication is people doing evil are following God’s will.
There are posters here who have pet scripture and ignore everything else the Bible says on topics they like. They are forever taking things out of context and some of their beliefs run contrary to the whole Bible’s teachings about very important topics.