22 Jul 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelI may relate a parable of Hindu spiritual lore. A yogi,after doing prescribed penance for 14 years gained the miraculous power of walking on water. He went to see another Sadhak ( a person on the path of realisation of God ) and boasted of the power. The Sadhak replied that this was a 2 anna power,one anna being the currency unit equal to one sixteenth of the Rupee. He explained that with 2 anna payment to the boatman,one can cross any river. The yogi would have realised God after intense devotion to God for 14 years. The true miracle is to realise God.
Ask a hindu-they are more knowledgeable about such things.
22 Jul 11
Jesus Christ, from one persepective is very special.
But from another angle Jesus Christ is most NORMAL.
Christ is what God meant by human being.
Jesus is normal. It is fallen man who has fallen so low that Jesus Christ appears to us a great enigma.
Jesus Christ is what MAN was meant to be in the heart of God - the Normal Man.
Since we have fallen from God's eternal purpose, Jesus Christ is our Savior to bring us back to what was NORMAL in the heart of the Creator God.
22 Jul 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoWhat is this, a yarn about exchange rates to cross the river Styx, as told by the High Priest Non Sequitur? Are you sure the sentences are in the correct order?
I may relate a parable of Hindu spiritual lore. A yogi,after doing prescribed penance for 14 years gained the miraculous power of walking on water. He went to see another Sadhak ( a person on the path of realisation of God ) and boasted of the power. The Sadhak replied that this was a 2 anna power,one anna being the currency unit equal to one sixteenth of ...[text shortened]... ave realised God after intense devotion to God for 14 years. The true miracle is to realise God.
23 Jul 11
Originally posted by tomtom232One thing that makes Jesus special is his status as a zombie.
He walked on water, turned water into wine, made water come out of a rock etc etc... I put the question to you... Can not magicians of today appear to walk on water, turn water into wine and make water come out of a rock? Can not magicians of today make elephants dissappear and escape from the most challenging of predicaments?
I, personally, can turn wine into water... I must be a messiah!
23 Jul 11
Originally posted by tomtom232I tell you what, lets let people kill you on a cross and after being dead three
He walked on water, turned water into wine, made water come out of a rock etc etc... I put the question to you... Can not magicians of today appear to walk on water, turn water into wine and make water come out of a rock? Can not magicians of today make elephants dissappear and escape from the most challenging of predicaments?
I, personally, can turn wine into water... I must be a messiah!
days come back to life and we will discuss how important a person you really
are.
Kelly
23 Jul 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobI think Atheist define themselves about there not being a God or gods. As they
[b]I think the atheist first desires to think that there is no God.
I think it is quite clear you have no idea what an atheist thinks. It is a theme which pops up every now and again in your posts, as of yet i have seen nothing from you which resembles how i as an atheist thinks.[/b]
declare their thoughts that is the one theme of the Atheist to acknowledge that
God is NOT real possibilty or even likely. They cannot define themselves as an
Aheist any more if they even claim there is evidence for God so they cannot
even be open to that. It is in their make up to be against such thoughts, so they
are at all times, quite a bias.
Kelly
23 Jul 11
Originally posted by SoothfastSoothfast, I repeat that the essence of the story was that the miraculous power was not worth even the small payment to the boatman and that it is far better to try to realise God than to acquire miraculous powers. Got it ?
What is this, a yarn about exchange rates to cross the river Styx, as told by the High Priest Non Sequitur? Are you sure the sentences are in the correct order?
23 Jul 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoI don't know. It would be pretty cool to be able to shoot force-lightning out of my fingers like Emperor Palpatine...
Soothfast, I repeat that the essence of the story was that the miraculous power was not worth even the small payment to the boatman and that it is far better to try to realise God than to acquire miraculous powers. Got it ?
24 Jul 11
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Originally posted by LemonJello===================================
One thing that makes Jesus special is his status as a zombie.
One thing that makes Jesus special is his status as a zombie.
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I think you have made this claim before.
And I repeat the reply written before. Jesus throughout His whole life, both before and after His resurrection displayed a level of self control which no other human has even displayed.
You have no way near the amount of self control that Jesus manifested.
You are driven to do what you don't really want to do.
You fail to perform what you would like to perform.
You are much more of a zombie then Jesus was.
25 Jul 11
Originally posted by jaywillNo possible idea ?
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I think it is quite clear you have no idea what an atheist thinks.
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No possible idea ?
Do you think I never entertained the thought that "I" was it and that was ALL ?
Granted, I cannot speak for all atheists. But at the same time you should not think I came ...[text shortened]... houghts of there being no God are protected behind proud and high walls of reason.[/b]
Anything is possible, but as i said, i have seen nothing from you which resembles how i as an atheist thinks. Maybe one day you will.
Granted, I cannot speak for all atheists.
You can speak for all atheists as much as i can speak for all Christians.
But you know I am enfluenced by the Book which I am convinced is the word of God to man.
But you know i am not influenced by the Bible, so i'm not quite sure why you are quoting scripture to me.
25 Jul 11
Originally posted by KellyJayI think Atheist define themselves about there not being a God or gods.
I think Atheist define themselves about there not being a God or gods. As they
declare their thoughts that is the one theme of the Atheist to acknowledge that
God is NOT real possibilty or even likely. They cannot define themselves as an
Aheist any more if they even claim there is evidence for God so they cannot
even be open to that. It is in their make up to be against such thoughts, so they
are at all times, quite a bias.
Kelly
I'm not even sure what that means?! But i notice it's a theme which you have brought up in a debate with rwingnett before. So i'll restate what rwingnett told you, my atheism does not define me, it simply means i don't believe in God(s). That is all. Apart from a few debates on this website discussing my views on certain topics my atheism is rarely brought up in my normal day to day life. I don't go to any atheist meetings or 'sermons', i have two books on the topic in my flat, i have more books on chess than i do on atheism.
As for the rest of your post it's not legible. It just comes across as the ravings of a mad man.
25 Jul 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobIt means what again? I'm sorry how did you define yourself?
[b]I think Atheist define themselves about there not being a God or gods.
I'm not even sure what that means?! But i notice it's a theme which you have brought up in a debate with rwingnett before. So i'll restate what rwingnett told you, my atheism does not define me, it simply means i don't believe in God(s). That is all. Apart from a few debates ...[text shortened]... he rest of your post it's not legible. It just comes across as the ravings of a mad man.[/b]
Kelly