Originally posted by galveston75Is "God" nothing more than an old man's general fear of change? 😕
Just a point to think about. Some here say things are the same or even better then in the past.
Look back at our grand parents or their parents time and even before them. Us older guys can remember those times as a kid.
We can remember the things that were accepted and things that were not.
One example is homosexuality. It has always been here but ...[text shortened]... en into the way satan or society wants us to think?
Have we become numb to God's viewpoint?
Originally posted by FMFJW's are not allowed to read material that disagrees with or contradicts JW governing body teaching; hence the hemming, hawing, dodging and deflecting.
Because you show no evidence of having exposed yourself to perspectives that challenge your preconceived notions, because you stray little beyond your tabloid and YouTube clip mentality, because you have dodged my direct questions numerous times, misrepresented my views, and tried to deflect by playing the 'victim card'. You are what you post, galveston75. I am responding to what you post.
Originally posted by galveston75"Waste " your time. Actually J357's post sounded alright to me.
What do you mean a succesful outcome? That everyone here sees this the way I do and agrees? I'm not expecting that at all and never have.
My goal was to share this info and perhaps, just perhaps have someone see this and maybe confess they did not know things were this bad, say with the oceans as all the links I posted prove.
And then maybe just may ...[text shortened]... would be different.
So I'm in need of no advise other then to not waist my time here....
The fact that you unceasingly put a barrier between you and your supposed god is always a problem I guess.
Originally posted by galveston75The world is a big place Galveston. How much of it have you seen?
Just my view of what I see:
#1. Today while I was out sweeping, the business next door to us, a young white fairly educated young man came out of the shop yelling at the Middle eastern woman who is also the owner and was calling her every name in the book including "Sand N- - - -r and she promptly replied you F - - - - - g American pig. I could go on ...[text shortened]... a young black man. Go down in person, get in the middle of that and see how it goes for you...
regarding the advancements in medical science, despite this, infectious diseases are
spreading more rapidly than ever before and new diseases are emerging faster than
ever before.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1962876/
deforestation is continuing in an unprecedented way since the history of humanity,
http://www.ltu.se/cms_fs/1.5035!/deforestation%20-%20final.pdf
The conclusion of the point is this. Jesus said there would be a composition of signs that would signal his return, the ousting of Satan from heaven and the affects of that here on earth.
He also said that it would be noticable and would cleary be seen and understood by those who are willing to see and by those who would be paying attention and watching for these things to happen.
Those who have been watching and paying more then the usual attention have seen these things happen with their own eyes thru reports of not only of today but with written historical reports from the beginning of the 20th century when many of us were not alive.
Jesus also clearly said that MOST will not see and recognize these signs just as those in Noah's day did not.
I or no other person on the earth can make anyone who does not want too see and understand no matter how much proof is presented to them. They can only see and understand if it is in their heart and the willingness and humbleness to be shown by God the truth on this matter.
Ones may acknowledge that a few bad things are happening, but the composite sign the Bible speaks of does not come into focus....
http://www.futureagenda.org/pg/cx/view#318
"The increased threat of pandemic disease.....
In the next decade, many healthcare organisations agree with Jack Lord’s initial view that ‘we will see two or three major pandemics that will have a significant global impact’. Given that Spanish flu killed around 3% of the world’s population at the time and infected around a third, the consequences of a similar event today are massive. If, for example, a new strain of avian flu were to spread quickly from its source globally, then some estimate that as many as 3 billion people could be infected within twelve months. If the right vaccines are not developed and distributed quickly, one in five of these could die within the year. As was highlighted in one workshop: ‘In many ways, a global pandemic has to be seen as a greater threat to us than nuclear terrorism and global warming combined.’
Originally posted by galveston75Broadly: What has been the track record of the JW organization in predicting these end times? Have its predictions come true and at the times it said they would?
The conclusion of the point is this. Jesus said there would be a composition of signs that would signal his return, the ousting of Satan from heaven and the affects of that here on earth.
He also said that it would be noticable and would cleary be seen and understood by those who are willing to see and by those who would be paying attention and watchin d things are happening, but the composite sign the Bible speaks of does not come into focus....
Specifically: In the post above, twice you seem to be claiming the reason we should believe you is because you declare yourself to be "willing to see" the things you say you see. Do you think this "willingness" has any objective meaning? Surely this "willingness" is simply information about you and your thought processes, rather than actual information about the world around you?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22146/
Summary and Assessment1
Most infectious disease experts believe that the world stands on the verge of an influenza pandemic (Chen et al., 2004; WHO, 2004a; Webby and Webster, 2003). Yet despite the legacy of the 1918 “Spanish flu,” estimated to have killed at least 20 million people,2 and the additional deaths, social disruption, and economic losses that resulted from pandemics in 1957 and 1968, the general public appears relatively unconcerned about the next “killer flu.” Considerably more attention has been focused on protecting the public from terrorist attacks than from the far more likely and pervasive threat of pandemic influenza—an event conservatively expected to cause between 2 and 8 million deaths (WHO, 2004a).
Originally posted by galveston75The world recovered from the 1918 “Spanish flu". It handled the pandemics in 1957 and 1968 relatively easily. Thanks to scientific progress and the wider and wider distribution of health infrastructure, we are well placed to deal with the next “killer flu.” Do you think "flu" is a sign that the "end times" are near?
Yet despite the legacy of the 1918 “Spanish flu,” estimated to have killed at least 20 million people,2 and the additional deaths, social disruption, and economic losses that resulted from pandemics in 1957 and 1968, the general public appears relatively unconcerned about the next “killer flu.”
Originally posted by galveston75That there are problems is not in dispute. And no one is saying that the problems are "ok". The issue is the significance you choose [or are "willing"] to place upon these problems.
Is this really ok? Just because the population has increased, is it ok that these problems have increased also?
Originally posted by FMFThe issue is the insignificance you choose [or are not "willing"] to place upon these problems.
That there are problems is not in dispute. And no one is saying that the problems are "ok". The issue is the significance you choose [or are "willing"] to place upon these problems.