08 Apr 12
Originally posted by RJHindsThis material world is not our real home and it will never be our real home.
Three of the four gospel writers quote Jesus to have said the following:
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away." (Matthew 24:35 NKJV)
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away." (Mark 13:31 NKJV)
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away." (Luke 21:33 ...[text shortened]... heavens.
P.S. Christ knows what perfection is. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! 😏
Our real home is in the eternal spiritual world.....Vaikuntha Loka
This world will always remain a place of birth,disease,old age and death and suffering.
We don't belong here - and this world is illusionary because ultimately it is all but dust in the wind.
Show me something in this world that is not ultimately dust. (you cannot)
Originally posted by josephwIt may very plausible to you. But Satan's explanation to Eve as to why she should
[b]"There was nothing and then there was a big bang and something exploded."
How can something explode from nothing?
I think the big bang theory is a very plausible way of explaining how everything came into existence. First there was no universe or matter or time or space. Then God created space, matter and time. BANG!
Now here we are trying to explain it all.[/b]
eat the forbidden fruit was plausible to her also. However, they are both wrong.
08 Apr 12
Originally posted by RJHindsThat's the problem with this forum. Sometimes the things we say are misunderstood.
It may very plausible to you. But Satan's explanation to Eve as to why she should
eat the forbidden fruit was plausible to her also. However, they are both wrong.
You and I both know God spoke creation into existence. That's what the Bible says, and I believe it.
I was really just spoofing on Dasa.
Originally posted by DasaWould you quote your source from your Holy writings. Otherwise, I see this
This material world is not our real home and it will never be our real home.
Our real home is in the eternal spiritual world.....Vaikuntha Loka
This world will always remain a place of birth,disease,old age and death and suffering.
We don't belong here - and this world is illusionary because ultimately it is all but dust in the wind.
Show me something in this world that is not ultimately dust. (you cannot)
as only your opinions. Does your Holy writings say the Holy Bible was written
by animal killers, drunkards, etc. or is this your opinion? You quote no source
like I have. I agree with you on evolution, but I have the Holy Bible as my
source for that, too. You state only opinion and do not quote what is said in
your Holy writings on these opinions as I do.
P.S. Please do not quote what your Guru tells you. Quote a translation in
English of what is written in your Vedas and it would be nice if you knew somewhere
on the web that has a copy just like Biblegateway.com so I can look them up
and verify it myself like you can do for my Holy writings, the Holy Bible.
08 Apr 12
Originally posted by RJHindsMy friend...........there was no Satan or Eve or Adam or apple or snake.
It may very plausible to you. But Satan's explanation to Eve as to why she should
eat the forbidden fruit was plausible to her also. However, they are both wrong.
All but story's for the children.
08 Apr 12
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Originally posted by Dasa“...The universe is perfect and so is everything else that can be perceived.
The universe is perfect and so is everything else that can be perceived.
The thing is....... no one knows what perfection is.
If we experience an earth quake- then it is a perfect earth quake.
If we experience baldness - then we are experiencing perfect baldness.
If we are experiencing the moon moving away fro the earth - then we are experiencing a ...[text shortened]... epted by fools and rascals who are thoroughly dishonest with their observations and conclusions.
The thing is....... no one knows what perfection is. ...”
but if that is true then YOU cannot know what 'perfection' is thus begging the question HOW can you RATIONALLY know that the universe is 'perfect' when you don't even know what 'perfection' is! ?????
well?
08 Apr 12
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Originally posted by RJHindsBut that makes you a highly abnormal atypical person.
Okay. I still think it is stupid, but if I were God I would have my own interest in
mind. Why should I care about the human's interests if they conflict with my
own? I would just wipe out all of those that were not going along with my
purpose in a world-wide flood.
I for one would certainly not selfishly only consider my own interests if I was a 'God' ( but what 'interests' would I have anyway? -I will come back to that in a moment ) for, like most people, I have empathy and sympathy for others even when I am not a 'God' ( which I aren’t ) .
Most normal people have some level of altruism ( not to mention a sense of morality and responsibility ) .
Besides, if you are an all-powerful 'God', then you would have no vulnerabilities thus no interests involving guarding yourself because of vulnerabilities so what would exactly be in your “ own interests” in any non-trivial sense would be hard to imagine and thus hard to see how some humans ( with insignificant power compared to yours ) would get in the way of your “own interests”.
-OK, first imagine that you are a 'God', now tell us what exactly you would see as 'your own interests' in any non-trivial sense that is such that humans have the power to get in the way of those 'interests'?
If you cannot, then the God-hypothesis would appear to make no sense for it would beg the question why would a 'God' not make the universe with an intelligent design that is more consistent with our interests in mind? ( unless a 'God' would be unconcerned with humanity? That at least would be consistent with actual observations such as arbitrary random suffering of very young children from natural disasters etc )
08 Apr 12
Originally posted by RJHindsYou mean to tell me you would be swayed by someone else's quotation? That what he thinks, no matter how out in the fringe, if he quoted someone else who had the same delusions, that would make a difference to you?
I do not see anything but your opinion. Where are the quotations?
All you do is quote your fantasies from your bible, 2000 years later there is no end days, we may in fact be creating our own end days but the earth will go on, perhaps people will go on after the coming climate crisis and such but people like you will always be trying to instill religion by fear.
That is the thing about atheism, there is no fear, we don't need to constantly refer to devils and angels, something you personally have never and will never see, just in your brainwashed delusions do you see those things.
Any good in the world is from humans, any evil in the world is from humans. Any help fixing the climate will come from humans and if humans prove to be so money addled as to not fix the climate, the climate will fix itself, perhaps in such a manner that humans will be extinct, if so, there will be no supernatural being coming down and going, 'its ok, we will fix your stupidity'. You however, will be deluded for the rest of your life, unable to see past your bible.
You and Dasa have similar delusions.
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08 Apr 12
Originally posted by Dasathere are several theories on how the egg evolved. most would agree that eggs existed long before the chicken. creatures that lay eggs do so because they produce a type of protein that causes crystallisation and forms a hard shell. over a long period of time by cross breeding and survival of the fittest the shell would develop around the fetus, at first the amount of shell would be nominal then over the years would increase until we have a fully formed egg. thats how i understand it anyway. im sure there are scientists on here who could give a better answer.
Persons who push evolution upon us without honestly observing their observations - and then return rude comments to defend there poor observations - only crystallize the fact that evolution is for fools and rascals.
How does the chicken lay its egg?
Did the chicken which didn't really look like a chicken in the beginning have a placenta birth long ago??? ...[text shortened]... - so the humans can collect them and store them on their supermarkets shelves in the future?
you say 'started with a placenta' nothing started with a placenta, that evolved as well.
yes chickens knew that humans would eat them, chickens even discussed at one point if they should evolve flavorings for their eggs. it was the same meeting in which bannanas agreed to evolve to make really good milkshakes.
08 Apr 12
Originally posted by stellspalfieThe scientist on here are almost as ignorant as you are. So don't look to them.
there are several theories on how the egg evolved. most would agree that eggs existed long before the chicken. creatures that lay eggs do so because they produce a type of protein that causes crystallisation and forms a hard shell. over a long period of time by cross breeding and survival of the fittest the shell would develop around the fetus, at first ...[text shortened]... gs. it was the same meeting in which bannanas agreed to evolve to make really good milkshakes.
08 Apr 12
Originally posted by RJHinds“...The scientist on here are almost as ignorant as you are. ...”
The scientist on here are almost as ignorant as you are. So don't look to them.
-that would make stellspalfie more knowledgeable than “The scientists” -a complement if true.
Pity the same cannot be said about you. In fact, you have demonstrated your complete ignorance of the very basic concept of probability -something most laypeople, even those with poor maths skills, usually grasp in childhood ( apart from Christian fundamentalists? -cannot draw that conclusion from just one example but you do make me wonder for at least ignorance of the very basic concept of probability could help explain how they can maintain totally absurd beliefs ) .
08 Apr 12
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Originally posted by humyI was an "A" student in my math classes in college. So you are talking out of
“...The scientist on here are almost as ignorant as you are. ...”
-that would make stellspalfie more knowledgeable than “The scientists” -a complement if true.
Pity the same cannot be said about you. In fact, you have demonstrated your complete ignorance of the very basic concept of probability -something most laypeople, even those with poor maths skills, u ...[text shortened]... basic concept of probability could help explain how they can maintain totally absurd beliefs ) .
your arse, like Ace Ventura.