You shall know them by…

@kellyjay said
fruit

Correct.

Not therefore their beliefs, which the point of the OP.

@divegeester said
Correct.

Not therefore their beliefs, which the point of the OP.

We are saved by faith through grace, not by works; our fruit comes as a result of
the Holy Spirit in our lives; without Him, we are just in the flesh even if we make
the confession without God in our lives would be meaningless.

Ephesians 2
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test!

Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Romans 8:8
Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

@kellyjay said
We are saved by faith through grace, not by works; our fruit comes as a result of
the Holy Spirit in our lives; without Him, we are just in the flesh even if we make
the confession without God in our lives would be meaningless.

Ephesians 2
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so th ...[text shortened]... l; against such things there is no law.

Romans 8:8
Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

You should start a thread on this topic instead of posting it as non sequitur in this one.

@divegeester said
Correct.

Not therefore their beliefs, which the point of the OP.

Their fruit comes from their belief in God, and the Son, and the Resurrection.

@divegeester said
You should start a thread on this topic instead of posting it as non sequitur in this one.

The source of the fruit matters, if you don’t have God in you, the only fruit you can have in your life is generated by your flesh. How do you know them, was the question, scripture provided the question and the answers.

The post that was quoted here has been removed

Quoted for reference.

@kellyjay said
The source of the fruit matters, if you don’t have God in you, the only fruit you can have in your life is generated by your flesh. How do you know them, was the question, scripture provided the question and the answers.

Start a thread discussing this “source” if you like.

@kevin-eleven said
Quoted for reference.

You’d remember it better if you printed it off and blue-tacked it on your wall.

@divegeester said
Start a thread discussing this “source” if you like.

You brought up fruit from scripture, it is not my fault you don’t like the topic you choose.

@divegeester said
Correct.

Not therefore their beliefs, which the point of the OP.

Men can’t see what the heart of another man is and what his genuine beliefs are. God can.

That is why Jesus said by their fruits ye shall know them. Because men can’t see what God sees.

@kellyjay said
You brought up fruit from scripture, it is not my fault you don’t like the topic you choose.

You were talking about the “source” of the fruit.

This thread is is about how a person can tell if another person is a follower of Christ by observing the fruit they display.

If you want to talk about the “source” of the fruit, you should start a thread on it.

@savedbygrace said
Men can’t see what the heart of another man is and what his genuine beliefs are.

Beliefs and doctrines are written down so people can read them.

@divegeester said
Beliefs and doctrines are written down so people can read them.

We’re talking about, unless I’m mistaken about the OP, why Jesus Christ said by their fruits ye shall know them and not by their beliefs ye shall know them.

Men can’t know what someone genuinely believes. But Christ goes on to say that a good tree produces good fruit (and a corrupt tree corrupt fruit.) It is from the heart that good fruit is borne. But men (unlike God) can’t know what another man’s heart is. That’s why Jesus said they could tell the heart of a man by the fruit he produces.

Belief is not irrelevant in the equation. It’s the foundation!

@divegeester said
You were talking about the “source” of the fruit.

This thread is is about how a person can tell if another person is a follower of Christ by observing the fruit they display.

If you want to talk about the “source” of the fruit, you should start a thread on it.

Yes, and unless the fruit is of the type it was written about due to the source it isn't
valid with respect to the Kingdom of God.

@savedbygrace said
unless I’m mistaken about the OP

Correct.