Originally posted by Red NightActually they have made it to three NC games in the last 6 years. Also consider that coach Tressel has run off the most consequtive wins in Big Ten history. I don't think many respect coach Tressels accomplishments for what they are. All they know is that the SEC is a better conference in general and I would not disagree with that sentiment. LSU may have better players over all than OSU, but don't count out coach Tress. He may have a few tricks up his sleeve. 😉
And I think you have to give some credit to OSU for making it to two consecutive title games. I think LSU will be and should be favored playing at home, but it is not impossible that OSU could pull the upset like they did against Miami.[/b]
Originally posted by poundleeIt shows the deplorable weakness of the "powerhouse" Big Ten that its no2 team (Michigan did beat Illinois which had the same conference record) playing the no5 team in the SEC (three teams had a better record than Florida's 5-3 and Auburn which was also 5-3 beat Florida) is considered a mismatch ........... in the SEC's favor!
I am a big ten fan and I think all the bashing is ridiculous BUT
(1) Michigan (who i root for) has no business playing Florida. (2) Illinois who I think it is debatable whether they are even the second best the team in the Big 10 should not play USC (the top pac ten team)
(3) It is absolutely B.S. that both Illinois and Ohio State play 100% road bowl game ...[text shortened]... her ranked in the polls that Illinois and Michigan and as a result bowl records cannot be great.
Originally posted by whodeyIf you look at the last 6 years and say what team(s) have stood head and shoulders above the rest, OSU has to be on if not at the very top of the list.
Actually they have made it to three NC games in the last 6 years. Also consider that coach Tressel has run off the most consequtive wins in Big Ten history. I don't think many respect coach Tressels accomplishments for what they are. All they know is that the SEC is a better conference in general and I would not disagree with that sentiment. LSU may have ...[text shortened]... ver all than OSU, but don't count out coach Tress. He may have a few tricks up his sleeve. 😉
The team should be applauded for their accomplishments.
The BCS is obviously wrong.
Here's the flaws.
1 - OSU is ranked number 1. They had a cupcake schedule featuring only 1 "good" team, Michigan (and they are not elite.) Meanwhile, Hawaii is ranked #10, and they had about the same schedule as OSU, but had a better record!
2 - The BCS is biased. Coaches do not vote accurately as they could objectively. Take the Georgia coach for example, who stated that he ranked his team #2 and OSU #1. He later said he expected to have best chances against OSU!
3 - Losing late is more hurtful than losing early. OSU lost early. All they had to do was wait for the domino to fall. WVU lost late; if the loss to Pitt came 7 weeks earlier (or 3-4) they could have still been ranked top 2.
4 - Different conferences are waited evenly. This is as if claiming the Giants have as easy a division as the Seahawks.
My solution: Have a playoff of some sort. Allow top 10-20 teams prove the BCS rankings and FIGHT for the championship rather than being VOTED for it. Obviously, the BCS is FLAWED and needs to be changed.
Originally posted by shortcircuitFresno State and Boise are even with Penn, Illonois.
Wow that's like saying the Rams and the Dolphins are comparable to the Giants and the Steelers.
Currently, the Rams are comparable to the Giants AND Steelers. The Rams have gone 3-1 this past month. That is better than NYG.
Originally posted by RamnedMichigan would be thrilled to learn that they are better than Wisconsin, Illinois, and Penn State.
1 - OSU is ranked number 1. They had a cupcake schedule featuring only 1 "good" team, Michigan (and they are not elite.) Meanwhile, Hawaii is ranked #10, and they had about the same schedule as OSU, but had a better record!
June Jones said that Washington was the best team his fellows played this year.
So Washington is equal to Michigan nad better than Wisconsin, Illinois, and Penn State?
BTW: I agree with you that we need a playoff.
Originally posted by jofazMichigan ducked a game at HOME against Hawaii and lost to a Div 1-AA team. I didn't see Fresno State or Boise State do either.
Washington had a tough schedule but was way below .500. Michigan won at Illinois and had 8 wins. Michigan is a much better team that Washington.