MLB Predictions

Originally posted by shortcircuit
What??? you are a rube. That statement is without any merit.

You obviously never played the game and you know nothing about the system. In an economy where overzealous owners frequently overpay for mediocre talent both offensively and in the pitching department it is a very well known fact among the "knowledgeable" baseball community that it is 10 t the market this past offseason, their salaries would have dwarfed Sabbathia's and Burnetts.

Your assertions are noted. All that's missing are any facts supporting them.

The highest paid starters are here: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2000/05/most-lucrative-contracts.html

I think you'll notice that they all won a lot of games in the years immediately preceding their contracts. ERA was definitely a secondary factor.

Peavy signed a contract extension in December 2007 at less money than Carlos Zambrano and Barry Zito and that was after winning 19 games. Somehow I don't think his 10-11 2008 were he missed about 7 starts and pitched 50 less innings than 2007 increased his value.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Your assertions are noted. All that's missing are any facts supporting them.

The highest paid starters are here: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2000/05/most-lucrative-contracts.html

I think you'll notice that they all won a lot of games in the years immediately preceding their contracts. ERA was definitely a secondary 008 were he missed about 7 starts and pitched 50 less innings than 2007 increased his value.

So, based on your assertion, a great pitcher who plays on a bad team won't win awards or get paid big bucks strictly because he failed to get wins?

Does your information also show you that in an overwhelming number of cases where a pitcher is signed to a huge multi-year contract, they typically fall off drastically the next season? I cite as examples from your list the following: Barry Zito, Mike Hampton, Jason Schmidt, Mark Buehrle, Cris Carpenter Roger Clemens. Out of the pitchers who signed lucrative deals prior to 2009 season, only Roy Halliday, Carlos Zambrano and Johan Santana performed at close to their previous levels, and Santana's & Zambrano's numbers were also diminished. Out of the newly signed set of pitchers I expect similar fates from Derek Lowe, Kevin Millwood, CC Sabbathia, AJ Burnett & Bronson Arroyo. They will all underperform this year. In fact, Millwood has already done it once before on his last long term deal.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Your assertions are noted. All that's missing are any facts supporting them.

The highest paid starters are here: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2000/05/most-lucrative-contracts.html

The "Cut and Paste King" strikes agian.

People are entitled to thier opinions.

Originally posted by shortcircuit
Since the money is apparantly not an issue with you, nor is it with me, how about putting the spoils to some good use? Let's say the loser makes a $100.00 contibution to B.A.T. to help the old timers out. The losers contibution will be in the winner's name.

What say you?

Now that the Reds have won the first game in which they have faced Oswalt, please feel free to make out your check to the "whodey fund".

Thank you. 😀

Originally posted by whodey
Now that the Reds have won the first game in which they have faced Oswalt, please feel free to make out your check to the "whodey fund".

Thank you. 😀

You rube. IT shows me to be dead on accurate with my assessment.
This game today was precisely what I projected would happen. Oswalt TOTALLY dominated the Reds. Here was his line in case you forgot it:

6-IP 5-Hits 3-BB 0-Runs ERA against the Reds this season 0.00

How did the Reds win the game? The bullpen blows the game AFTER Oswalt left it. This is precisely why I would accept the shyster lawyer's modified wager.

So you can send your check to me.

Originally posted by shortcircuit
You rube. IT shows me to be dead on accurate with my assessment.
This game today was [b]precisely what I projected would happen. Oswalt TOTALLY dominated the Reds. Here was his line in case you forgot it:

6-IP 5-Hits 3-BB 0-Runs ERA against the Reds this season 0.00

How did the Reds win the game? The bullpen blows the game AFTER ...[text shortened]... y why I would accept the shyster lawyer's modified wager.

So you can send your check to me.[/b]

Obviously you didn't watch the game. Oswalt hardly dominated; the Reds got a couple of base runners thrown out and failed to capitalize on some chances (bases loaded with 1 out in the 2nd). Roy was even a bit lucky; a ball hit by Taveras hit his a** but caromed right to Blum who barely threw out T. Nonetheless, the Reds wound up working Oswalt enough so he had thrown 108 pitches through 6 and had to be pulled and then won the game in the 9th.

Oswalt had won his last 8 starts against Cincinnati, so this is a start. We'll see him again soon and the next time I feel confident they'll cash in on their opportunities. His air of invincibility against the Reds is OVER.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Obviously you didn't watch the game. Oswalt hardly dominated; the Reds got a couple of base runners thrown out and failed to capitalize on some chances (bases loaded with 1 out in the 2nd). Roy was even a bit lucky; a ball hit by Taveras hit his a** but caromed right to Blum who barely threw out T. Nonetheless, the Reds wound up working Oswalt enough so ...[text shortened]... t they'll cash in on their opportunities. His air of invincibility against the Reds is OVER.

Read the numbers. If he pitched terribly and they couldn't nick him, then how the hell are they going to touch him when he is on? You are unbelievable!!

Originally posted by shortcircuit
Read the numbers. If he pitched terribly and they couldn't nick him, then how the hell are they going to touch him when he is on? You are unbelievable!!

Yes, read the numbers: 5 hits and 3 BBs - that's 8 base runners - in 6 innings. That's hardly "dominance" as you claimed. Nor did I say he pitched "terrible"; he pitched well - any time you don't give up any runs, you've pitched well. Plus his stuff was good; his fastball was consistently in the 93-95 MPH range and his breaking stuff was sharp - though the Reds definitely chased some bad pitches. But I still think the game shows the Reds can get him if they play a little smarter and hit a little better.

We shouldn't have too long to wait to find out whether the Reds can get him next time; if the Astro rotation stays the same, he should pitch in the Great Anerican Ballpark on April 27.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Yes, read the numbers: 5 hits and 3 BBs - that's 8 base runners - in 6 innings. That's hardly "dominance" as you claimed. Nor did I say he pitched "terrible"; he pitched well - any time you don't give up any runs, you've pitched well. Plus his stuff was good; his fastball was consistently in the 93-95 MPH range and his breaking stuff was sharp - though t ...[text shortened]... ro rotation stays the same, he should pitch in the Great Anerican Ballpark on April 27.

Change of direction there. Got news for you. Any time a pitcher gives up less that one hit per inning and allows no runs...it is ALWAYS viewed as a good job by the pitcher. Three walks was not too bad, considering his proclivity to toss strikeouts, but his K total was down for the night.

Plain and simple though---the Reds didn't beat Oswalt...they survived him. They didn't own Oswalt, they were held in check by Oswalt. The Reds were throttled by Oswalt, just as I said they would be. The Reds scuffed out a win against the bullpen as I said the might.

It is in print, I can bring it back up for you if you would like to read it this time. Man up someday and admit that you shot your mouth off...once again, and I called you out on it...once again...and you were wrong...once again.

Originally posted by no1marauder
We'll OWN him this year. Take it to the bank (they do still have banks in Cincinnati, right?).

Go to NHL playoff predictions first round

Originally posted by shortcircuit
Change of direction there. Got news for you. Any time a pitcher gives up less that one hit per inning and allows no runs...it is ALWAYS viewed as a good job by the pitcher. Three walks was not too bad, considering his proclivity to toss strikeouts, but his K total was down for the night.

Plain and simple though---the Reds didn't [b]beat Oswalt... h off...once again, and I called you out on it...once again...and you were wrong...once again.[/b]

I missed that the season was over. I can hardly be wrong about the Reds "owning" Oswalt THIS YEAR until it is. As it is, Oswalt has pitched one game against the Reds and the Reds record is 1-0 in those games. A 1.000 Cincinnati winning percentage in games started by Oswalt hardly proves me wrong. As already mentioned, Oswalt had won the last 8 games he started against the Reds. This is the beginning of the worm turning, not the end.

Originally posted by sloppyb
Go to NHL playoff predictions first round

I don't follow the NHL. I've already made predictions in the NBA thread.

Originally posted by shortcircuit
You rube. IT shows me to be dead on accurate with my assessment.
This game today was [b]precisely what I projected would happen. Oswalt TOTALLY dominated the Reds. Here was his line in case you forgot it:

6-IP 5-Hits 3-BB 0-Runs ERA against the Reds this season 0.00

How did the Reds win the game? The bullpen blows the game AFTER ...[text shortened]... y why I would accept the shyster lawyer's modified wager.

So you can send your check to me.[/b]

Why didn't Oswalt finish the game I wonder? Oh thats right, he needed to be relieved. You know what they say, if you want a job done right then do it yourself, but I suppose he was incapable of that.

As I said before, it is a team sport and precious few people really care about Oswalt numbers other than he and yourself. All that matters is a win or loss.

Originally posted by no1marauder
I missed that the season was over. I can hardly be wrong about the Reds "owning" Oswalt THIS YEAR until it is. As it is, Oswalt has pitched one game against the Reds and the Reds record is 1-0 in those games. A 1.000 Cincinnati winning percentage in games started by Oswalt hardly proves me wrong. As already mentioned, Oswalt had won the last 8 games he started against the Reds. This is the beginning of the worm turning, not the end.

YAWN...same dribble 33rd verse.

Originally posted by whodey
Why didn't Oswalt finish the game I wonder? Oh thats right, he needed to be relieved. You know what they say, if you want a job done right then do it yourself, but I suppose he was incapable of that.

As I said before, it is a team sport and precious few people really care about Oswalt numbers other than he and yourself. All that matters is a win or loss.

He was lifted due to pitch count moron. He pitched 6 complete and had over 100 pitches on the evening.