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padger

Here

Joined
31 May 06
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416756
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21 May 20

@very-rusty said
Ok so none of the others want to do it, but don't they want to play chess games?

Good that you said about clicking on the "V" so all the clan leaders will know now, or at least the ones who bother to even read this.

I don't have to tell you Padger this argument about the point system has went on for years now and there have been several votes on it by the Clan Lead ...[text shortened]... team who wins gets the points the loser doesn't get any. Why should that not apply to chess?

-VR
I don't have any argument with the clan that wins should get more han the losing clan
What gets me is the negative points
I do not get and never will
Is that you lose points that you have already won
Absolutely ridiculous

Very Rusty
Treat Everyone Equal

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Joined
04 Oct 06
Moves
639396
Clock
21 May 20

@padger said
I don't have any argument with the clan that wins should get more han the losing clan
What gets me is the negative points
I do not get and never will
Is that you lose points that you have already won
Absolutely ridiculous
Padger I honestly do see your point, but it is the same for every Clan. So no one has an advantage and has the same thing happen. We have been in some good sized Challenges and lost them same as everyone else. We are all in the same boat really.

-VR

Ghost of a Duke

Joined
14 Mar 15
Moves
29595
Clock
21 May 20

@padger said
I don't have any argument with the clan that wins should get more han the losing clan
What gets me is the negative points
I do not get and never will
Is that you lose points that you have already won
Absolutely ridiculous
Do you have to type that every time, or just cut and paste?

m

Joined
07 Feb 09
Moves
151917
Clock
22 May 20

@padger said
I don't have any argument with the clan that wins should get more han the losing clan
What gets me is the negative points
I do not get and never will
Is that you lose points that you have already won
Absolutely ridiculous
The negative points are necessary because not every clan plays the same number of challenges.
Without negative points, the clan feature just becomes a contest in who can set the most challenges.

This has been explained over and over and over again.

padger

Here

Joined
31 May 06
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416756
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22 May 20

@mghrn55 said
The negative points are necessary because not every clan plays the same number of challenges.
Without negative points, the clan feature just becomes a contest in who can set the most challenges.

This has been explained over and over and over again.
But over and over
The clan who plays the most games wins anyway

R
Standard memberRemoved

Joined
12 Nov 05
Moves
145614
Clock
22 May 20

@padger said
But over and over
The clan who plays the most games wins anyway
Im interested in this statement and had a spare 10 minutes so went to look

Games completed by the top 10 clans (of 2020 so far):

Metallica - 106
Drunken Pawns - 85
Wycombe - 166
Beer - 37
Chess Troopers - 109
Smiffys - 30
Popeye - 60
girly skiddo - 142 (one man clan)
Freethinkers - 49
Fast Players - 94

Thats quite a mix of numbers there?

Wycombe Al

Joined
05 Jan 05
Moves
687608
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22 May 20
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top 4 by games played:

Metallica 658
Drunken pawns 543
Wycombe 637
Beer 288

divegeester
watching in dismay

STARMERGEDDON

Joined
16 Feb 08
Moves
120526
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23 May 20

@padger said
The problem being that a lot of clan leaders just accept the challenge as is and don't look at it more carefully
Then seeing as you feel that these players in Metallica are not as good as their win ratio, and that you as a clan leader are wise to whatever challenge selection tactics are being employed...it does beg the question why you won’t accept a challenge from said clan?

The Pickled Walrus

Joined
01 May 20
Moves
4102
Clock
23 May 20
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Separate club ratings which are irrelevant but no clan rating?
It's a simple fix.
Have separate clan ratings.
Duh 🙄
No wonder clans are dying and nobody cares about them.

padger

Here

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23 May 20

@divegeester said
Then seeing as you feel that these players in Metallica are not as good as their win ratio, and that you as a clan leader are wise to whatever challenge selection tactics are being employed...it does beg the question why you won’t accept a challenge from said clan?
because I try to set up challenges on the 5 year average between players and keep between no more than 100 between them
every time Metallica send a challenge it is loaded up too much in their favour

padger

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23 May 20

@the-pickled-walrus said
Separate club ratings which are irrelevant but no clan rating?
It's a simple fix.
Have separate clan ratings.
Duh 🙄
No wonder clans are dying and nobody cares about them.
Russ has said that it is too complicated ?

l

Victor, New York

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23 May 20

@divegeester maybe he just doesn't want to play against a clan that operates like they do?

Ponderable
chemist

Linkenheim

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23 May 20

@padger said
Russ has said that it is too complicated ?
It is not just a separate list like for clubs, but has to be consistent across all clans and players.

Very Rusty
Treat Everyone Equal

Halifax, Nova Scotia

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23 May 20

@the-pickled-walrus said
Separate club ratings which are irrelevant but no clan rating?
It's a simple fix.
Have separate clan ratings.
Duh 🙄
No wonder clans are dying and nobody cares about them.
That suggestion was made and voted on I was in favour of doing just that, but the majority voted against it. Majority rule, but seems like a logical fix to me.

You would also have to include tournaments and private games, this is where it get complicted and would take a lot of work to do I believe.

-VR

m

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23 May 20

@lstcyr said
@divegeester maybe he just doesn't want to play against a clan that operates like they do?
And how is that ?
Challenges are set and agreed to between 2 clan leaders.
If you don’t like a challenge from an opposing clan leader, you either bounce it with a counter proposal, or you delete it.

Simple......
I know for fact that you routinely delete challenges from my clan (Metallica).
You don’t send any counteroffers back to me.
And that’s fine by me. I simply move on.
But you’re not losing any sleep over this, correct ??
Because I’m not.

Clan challenges are set between clan leaders sending challenges back and forth.
There are 2 outcomes. The challenge is abandoned (deleted).
Or an agreement is reached. At which point the challenge is in the hands of the players.
I personally have seen some challenges go back and forth 3 or 4 times. That is negotiation.

Quite simple, really.
Now please tell the forum how we operate.
Thanks.

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