@the-pickled-walrus saidMaking this change to add a separate clan rating is not as simple as it looks.
Separate club ratings which are irrelevant but no clan rating?
It's a simple fix.
Have separate clan ratings.
Duh 🙄
No wonder clans are dying and nobody cares about them.
It probably will require a change to the database (adding a new index).
More of a project than an enhancement.
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@mghrn55 saidI agree and i do the same - i have some clans i routinely will challenge and others that i wont (due to past incidents or the fact i know the ratings wont match)
And how is that ?
Challenges are set and agreed to between 2 clan leaders.
If you don’t like a challenge from an opposing clan leader, you either bounce it with a counter proposal, or you delete it.
@silverstriker saidThere’s nothing I need to do.
@mghrn55
Sadly there are still a few anti-Metallica players (based on before your leadership) and nowt you can do about it 🙁
We keep playing.
And support the feature.
24 May 20
@padger saidI think the 5 year average is going back too far for any clan not just Metallica. People can have declining age which can affect their rating, Medical issues, or personal issues in their life. Much has to be taken into consideration.
because I try to set up challenges on the 5 year average between players and keep between no more than 100 between them
every time Metallica send a challenge it is loaded up too much in their favour
I think the last 90 days is a pretty good way to determine where a particular player's strength is at this time. I have no idea how my Clan Leader does it or what he goes by, just that so far he is doing a fanatastic job, you not so much.
I always used the 90 days average of the player when making challenges as a co-captain on another site, and had a very good winning percentage. It is getting to know the strengths and weaknesses of your players and also the opponents. There is a lot of home work to be done, so one must be willing to be willing to put the time into it and get to know everyone's ability in each clan or team.
You should have close communication with your own members to know what is going on in their lives as it can indeed affect their play.
-VR
24 May 20
@very-rusty saidI agree with what you say about the average in that the 90 day is probably the best guide to a players ability.I, for example have a highest ever 5 yr rating of 1728 but have never been near that for years.I got there one xmas when I think all my opponents must've been drunk!!
I think the 5 year average is going back too far for any clan not just Metallica. People can have declining age which can affect their rating, Medical issues, or personal issues in their life. Much has to be taken into consideration.
I think the last 90 days is a pretty good way to determine where a particular player's strength is at this time. I have no idea how my Cla ...[text shortened]... your own members to know what is going on in their lives as it can indeed affect their play.
-VR
Finding out about fellow clan members is not so easy though.
When I was leader of the Laikers I tried several times to get the forum going but only got responses from a few of the others.
I concluded that most of the members just wanted me to find them games and weren't really bothered about clan business.
I started sending out a newsletter with incuding members' performance and 64 squares has carried it on ,but still little respnse .
24 May 20
@venda saidI said a 5 year average
I agree with what you say about the average in that the 90 day is probably the best guide to a players ability.I, for example have a highest ever 5 yr rating of 1728 but have never been near that for years.I got there one xmas when I think all my opponents must've been drunk!!
Finding out about fellow clan members is not so easy though.
When I was leader of the Laikers I trie ...[text shortened]... tter with incuding members' performance and 64 squares has carried it on ,but still little respnse .
Not the best in 5 years
24 May 20
@venda saidI said a 5 year average
I agree with what you say about the average in that the 90 day is probably the best guide to a players ability.I, for example have a highest ever 5 yr rating of 1728 but have never been near that for years.I got there one xmas when I think all my opponents must've been drunk!!
Finding out about fellow clan members is not so easy though.
When I was leader of the Laikers I trie ...[text shortened]... tter with incuding members' performance and 64 squares has carried it on ,but still little respnse .
Not the best in 5 years
I know of some players who go on a 30 day "Jolly up" once a year
What would that do to a 90 day average
@padger saidThis is a call you as a clan Leader has to make.
I said a 5 year average
Not the best in 5 years
I know of some players who go on a 30 day "Jolly up" once a year
What would that do to a 90 day average
Like our present clan leader told you negotiation is possible if you want to take the time.
In the majority of cases short of sandbagging the 90 day average of a player will give you their playing strength. The Site also keeps an average of rating for entering tournaments, which is another tool you can use when looking over your challenges if you don't already do so. You also have to check to see if that player is actually playing in tournaments presently.
-VR
@venda saidI agree
Yeah , sorry.
Still,it does illustrate that a player can reach a rating above his ability
I once had a rating well above what I am capable of
It is hard playing under those conditions
However the 5 year average was a much better indicator
As for negotiating between leaders
Have you any idea how long it takes to set up any sort of challenge
This is one thing that should be made easier
You go all through the players between the two clans and the system the says " NO "
Then once you have finally agreed to what the system allows
The opposition leaders says "NO "
If you do make a successful challenge that the system allows and you want to make another challenge
You have to go back to the clan page and try and find someone to challenge
I admire the leaders who have the patience to go through this torment time after time
I can only manage to give it a go once a month
25 May 20
@padger saidDo you know what hurts more than any thing else
I agree
I once had a rating well above what I am capable of
It is hard playing under those conditions
However the 5 year average was a much better indicator
As for negotiating between leaders
Have you any idea how long it takes to set up any sort of challenge
This is one thing that should be made easier
You go all through the players between the two clans and the sy ...[text shortened]... patience to go through this torment time after time
I can only manage to give it a go once a month
After you have managed to get the challenge going
Say about 9 months later the challenge is complete and your three members have lost by half a point 3.5 - 2.5
You get penalised 6 points and your opponent get 6
A difference of 12
For .5 difference
Wonderful