the clans - what can be done

trouble is a clan has to start with one player, so are all new clans excluded from competion while they build up their membership, i can't see people joing new clans and then having to wait until they reach a certain number of players before they can start, everyone will just join current clans so there would never be any new clans?

allowing membership of one clan only i think is required, more likely to get new clans or increased membership of the smaller clans if players are restricted to one clan only, i don't know how many are actually in more than one clan but it is a stat i would be interested to see

the clan winning the challenge should just get net points for the win, so 5 man challenge won 6-4 they get 2 points as they only won two more than the opposition, the losing clan gets deducted no points? i think this could help clans with less members and removes the option of throwing games as each game thrown will lose your clan potential points

@wycombe-al said
trouble is a clan has to start with one player, so are all new clans excluded from competion while they build up their membership, i can't see people joing new clans and then having to wait until they reach a certain number of players before they can start, everyone will just join current clans so there would never be any new clans?

@wycombe-al said
the clan winning the challenge should just get net points for the win, so 5 man challenge won 6-4 they get 2 points as they only won two more than the opposition, the losing clan gets deducted no points? i think this could help clans with less members and removes the option of throwing games as each game thrown will lose your clan potential points

@wycombe-al said
trouble is a clan has to start with one player, so are all new clans excluded from competion while they build up their membership, i can't see people joing new clans and then having to wait until they reach a certain number of players before they can start, everyone will just join current clans so there would never be any new clans?

@very-rusty said
@wycombe-al,
What about the winning Clan gets 6 and losing clan gets 4, this of course has been suggested and put down, but something must be done. It is plain for all of us to see. That still wouldn't get rid of opponents dragging out won games so the Clan winning has to wait longer to start a new clan challenge!!! The solution isn't that easy.

-VR

Any system which rewards a team for throwing games is a flawed system and needs to go.

Also the reward needs to be proportional to the effort, so if Al put in a team of 5 and I'm feeling lazy and in another match only field 2, his reward for a win should be greater than mine?

@medullah said
Any system which rewards a team for throwing games is a flawed system and needs to go.

Also the reward needs to be proportional to the effort, so if Al put in a team of 5 and I'm feeling lazy and in another match only field 2, his reward for a win should be greater than mine?

@napi said
While I am not sure I agree I see your point. Maybe it is not the "clan leaders" who need to talk. But someone does.

We need to get away from the "clan rating is the only answer" thinking and see what else might be out there. What can we do? What can I do?

When the only answer is - someone else needs to do something - we have the current stalemate.

@venda said
No,not greater Pete ,but the same.
I don't think rewards need to be proportional.
Both Your clan and Al's record a percentage win,so if your clan has played 20 challenges and won ten your score is 50%
If Al's team has played 10 challenges and won 5 his score is 50%
The tricky bit would be including drawn challenges in the stats but I'm sure they could be incorporated somehow.
Personal for Pete:-I hope csty and Roma don't see this.They would be claiming the 100!

@medullah said
Any system which rewards a team for throwing games is a flawed system and needs to go.

Also the reward needs to be proportional to the effort, so if Al put in a team of 5 and I'm feeling lazy and in another match only field 2, his reward for a win should be greater than mine?

@very-rusty said
@medullah,
The problem we have had for years is some people will hold up challenges to stop the winning Clan from starting a new challenge as with the new rules a clan can only play the same clan 3 times at any given time and you must wait a week in-between making a new Challenge.
Let's try and do something about people who hold up challenges inten ...[text shortened]... or Breaking Bad, that certainly doesn't help matters or a solution to the on going issues.
-VR

@very-rusty said
You have an excellent point! I agree it would make things more fair for all.

The Clan rating would be a good answer for sure!

I have no idea how much work would be required with the coding or if it would be feasible for the site to do?

-VR

@lstcyr

Here is the thing something must be done or the Clan Challenges will become a thing of the past as I predicted a few years back.

EDIT: We need a Clan Challenge rating only apart from the rest so it will help eliminate SANDBAGGING!!!

I don't know what can done about Clans rolling over and giving IVV points?


-VR