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sh76
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@averagejoe1 said
My 2 cents....what diff does it make what professions a poster is in? That fact does not impact Discussing Concepts. If we are discussing that doctor fees will be slashed with a democrat win, someone here may say he/she is a doctor and give their point of view. Since we dont know if he/she is a doctor, what they try to back up with 'Dr. experience" would hold very little water.
I'd agree in general. Arguments from authority are not persuasive.

But, if the question is what a law says or what a malady consists of or what pipes are made of, the lawyer, doctor or plumber respectively are in the best position to know.

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@sh76 said
I'd agree in general. Arguments from authority are not persuasive.

But, if the question is what a law says or what a malady consists of or what pipes are made of, the lawyer, doctor or plumber respectively are in the best position to know.
Absolutely, I hardly know what a stent is. But my point is, if a poster tells me he is a doctor and weighs in on stents, I do not know he is a doctor. If a guy says he is a lawyer and states a fact to be legally correct, I aint so sure........

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@metal-brain said
no1marauder is not a lawyer. sh76 probably is, but no1 doesn't have the basic knowledge required to pass the BAR exam. I was once fooled by his bluffing too, so don't feel bad.
Whatever marauder does to make a living, which I'm sure he is loaded like most elitist Left wing partisan hacks seem to be, is irrelevant.

What is painfully obvious is that he cares nothing about truth, justice, or any semblance of impartiality. He may comment rarely on such things as Obama breaking the law by violating things like the War Powers Act to try and show some impartiality, but at the end of the day it stops there. There will be no talk of impeachment for violating laws, there will be no talk of reinforcing checks and balances in the system for openly violating our laws or the Constitution. No, just keep things the way they are until a political opponent gets in there and does something similar. Then that person, and only then, must be removed.

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@averagejoe1 said
Gals is all-encompassing. Just like when posters say ‘you guys’ when addressing both gals and guys, If they can call a girl a guy, then I’m being ‘fair and balanced to say ‘you gals’ for both sexes,

In a forum over-weighted with improper nomenclature, I feel this is needed. Anyway, it means boys and girls and also the other 84 genders. I’m a southern boy and find it impossible to refer to girls as guys. I think that’s a good thing.
You're not being "fair and balanced" — you're being a dickhead.

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as a lawyer i can report that if the supreme court requires that the tax returns be turned over then they must be turned over. if president trump refuses it will be
on sepration of powers issues and then it will go back to the supreme court and then the president will win as the supreme court will not usurp the doctrine of seperation of powers so central to the non-poliltical stability of the the american government and way of life.

if the supreme court declines to accept the case they will probably do so ( for the above stated reasons ) and then that is the end of the matter. the supreme court is allowed to decline without giving a reason.

cyrus vance, jr. ( son of an old time democrat ) will then just have to go to the water cooler and talk about basketball with his junior attorneys.

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@handyandy said
You're not being "fair and balanced" — you're being a dickhead.
Not at all,, Handy. This is logic at its finest. How do you get off calling my daughter a 'guy' when you say 'you guys' to a group of boys and girls (guys and gals)? Are you with me? Just thought it would be fun to make this point, no sense calling me a dickhead for exhibiting a great example of logic. Libs have trouble with logic.

So, does it not follow, that the same references would apply to call a group of girls and boys (guys and gals) 'You gals"???? I beg you to engage me on this one!!!!!! (More fun than Trump this, Trump that....I can see him on TV)

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@sh76
"When I first started here I was quite open about my identity. I had social media links on my bio page. Sleepyguy once PMed me asking whether I really wanted my identity so open to some of the nutjobs who post here regularly"

WOW...you would think a lawyer would know that. LOL

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@averagejoe1 said
Not at all,, Handy. This is logic at its finest. How do you get off calling my daughter a 'guy' when you say 'you guys' to a group of boys and girls (guys and gals)? Are you with me? Just thought it would be fun to make this point, no sense calling me a dickhead for exhibiting a great example of logic. Libs have trouble with logic.

So, does it not follow, that ...[text shortened]... u to engage me on this one!!!!!! (More fun than Trump this, Trump that....I can see him on TV)
Calling a mixed group of men and women "you gals" is illogical on any level. In your posts, it comes across as an insult. You seem to be using the term to mock your rivals, the liberals. Whatever happened to civil discourse?

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@handyandy said
Calling a mixed group of men and women "you gals" is illogical on any level. In your posts, it comes across as an insult. You seem to be using the term to mock your rivals, the liberals. Whatever happened to civil discourse?
Frankly, I agree with your point, it was just a way to make for a bit of lightheartedness in an otherwise testy bunch of posts. My apologies, i’ll Say you guys from now on, or, better, y’all.

Even on one post, purely for fun, I stuck my neck out to you turkeys and announced buying Roku stock. I sometimes catch it for discussing investing, etc, so it would almost be fun to lose on the stock and catch grief for it. Something entertaining, to take a break from the lack of accomplishments of pres. Trump.

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@averagejoe1 said
Absolutely, I hardly know what a stent is. But my point is, if a poster tells me he is a doctor and weighs in on stents, I do not know he is a doctor. If a guy says he is a lawyer and states a fact to be legally correct, I aint so sure........
It's difficult for a hoaxer imitate a professional on a consistent basis. Someone who has a strong amateur interest in a subject and is a couple of standard deviations above average intelligence may be able to do it, but they'd just admit to being an amateur, give their opinion and see if the professionals agree. The average hoaxer would just show themselves up pretty soon because these opinions are tricky and getting it right consistently is virtually impossible for a non-professional. Even casual observers will notice after a while, it's just hard to imitate in a way I can't work out how to express.

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@handyandy said
Calling a mixed group of men and women "you gals" is illogical on any level. In your posts, it comes across as an insult. You seem to be using the term to mock your rivals, the liberals. Whatever happened to civil discourse?
LMFAO! 😂😂😂👀

him feewings hurt?

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@sh76 said
Not that it really matters, but both no1 and I have posted to this forum in manners that make our identities available to anyone who really cares to know (no1 is in the FIDE database and has quite a few of his games available online, unless I'm very much mistaken). Lawyers admitted to the New York bar are searchable online.

When I first started here I was quite open about my ...[text shortened]... res to can probably figure out my real name and at least half a dozen regulars here know what it is.
Actually, I'm in the USCF database, not FIDE. When I was tournament active, I used to post games from some of my tournaments here esp. the NY Championship with the names of myself and my opponents.

I could give my name, address, year I graduated law school or even my attorney registration number so others could use the NY Courts database, but what would be the point? Others could simply claim that individual wasn't the same one posting on this forum as no1marauder anyway. And the potential loss of privacy would be problematic for reasons sh76 has stated.

To the main point, I don't care whether people here believe I'm a lawyer or not. I don't rely on that fact for my arguments here anyway; if other posters think I'm wrong on any point, even a legal one, make cogent arguments supporting your position.

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@deepthought said
It's difficult for a hoaxer imitate a professional on a consistent basis. Someone who has a strong amateur interest in a subject and is a couple of standard deviations above average intelligence may be able to do it, but they'd just admit to being an amateur, give their opinion and see if the professionals agree. The average hoaxer would just show themselves up pretty s ...[text shortened]... rvers will notice after a while, it's just hard to imitate in a way I can't work out how to express.
This is right on. I take you for an algorithmic analyst with common sense training and a logical background. When we all meet for an annual reunion, you can hold a clinic for certain people on these threads!!

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@averagejoe1 said
My 2 cents....what diff does it make what professions a poster is in? That fact does not impact Discussing Concepts. If we are discussing that doctor fees will be slashed with a democrat win, someone here may say he/she is a doctor and give their point of view. Since we dont know if he/she is a doctor, what they try to back up with 'Dr. experience" would hold very little water.
My 2 cents....what diff does it make what professions a poster is in?


It's makes a lot of difference Einstein. Donald Trump is embroiled in more legal fights than most small countries. You, Whodey, Mott and other "self appointed" experts here spout your opinions based on B.S. and regurgitate hand picked quotes from FOX News. While SH76 and No1 base there's on statutes and case law.

Who has more credibility? Duhhhhh- 😳

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@mchill said
My 2 cents....what diff does it make what professions a poster is in?


It's makes a lot of difference Einstein. Donald Trump is embroiled in more legal fights than most small countries. You, Whodey, Mott and other "self appointed" experts here spout your opinions based on B.S. and regurgitate hand picked quotes from FOX News. While SH76 and No1 base there's on statutes and case law.

Who has more credibility? Duhhhhh- 😳
google has made a lot of experts...the term lawyer does not encompass all areas of law.

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